Disc Compatibility?

[cyclintom]

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.

The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

[Roger Merriman]

Post by cyclintom
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

Roger Merriman

[cyclintom]

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by cyclintom
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to me in a dream. But since they are compatible it must be air in the system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a problem.

[AMuzi]

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by cyclintom
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to me in a dream. But since they are compatible it must be air in the system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle.
The front points straight up.

Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be
at the lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap
the caliper with a tool handle while purging the fluid. It
has air in the nooks and crannies of the caliper.

[zen cycle]

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra  actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up.  Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

[Roger Merriman]

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra  actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up.  Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather
don’t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes
it.

With apologies for Facebook link!

<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and
my wife couldn’t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!

I’m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on.

I occasionally ride around there, though it’s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary’s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!

Roger Merriman

[cyclintom]

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!

Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort. Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.

My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?

[AMuzi]

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!

Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort. Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?

You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.

That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.

[cyclintom]

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!

Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort. Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?

You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.

If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?

[Zen Cycle]

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!

Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort. Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?

You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.

If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?

That's not a high-carbon steel tube, dumbass.

[AMuzi]

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators.
It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear
will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they
actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to
the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks
from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so
on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace,
though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more
simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed
GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators.
That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas -
dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my
previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has
the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up
and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual
angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it
can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the
caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in
the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

It is though very similar to way folks with a brain
injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling
down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months
post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a
joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated
folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to
get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s
spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the
on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday,
glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even
the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and
bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!

Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top
tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how
that could happen and you believe it to be fake science?
Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't
even an engineer of any sort. Flunky is on this
newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working
hours and he has showed us his account where he said
that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them
at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys
you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to
conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped
the ability to post and that was treated successfully
with medication. So the question arises, what has
happened to your ability to think?

You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.

If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent
inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back
out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible
metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?

That's not a high-carbon steel tube, dumbass.

True, but the principles are the same across steels as a
group. The relative numbers vary from one steel alloy or
temper finish to another.

[Zen Cycle]

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!

Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it
went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and
you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical
engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort. Flunky
is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working
hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode
TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides.
If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive -
the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and
that was treated successfully with medication. So the question
arises, what has happened to your ability to think?

You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.

If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so
you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would
you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just
imagining it?

That's not a high-carbon steel tube, dumbass.

True, but the principles are the same across steels as a group.  The
relative numbers vary from one steel alloy or temper finish to another.

Except that the characteristics of a tube versus a sheet of the same
material thickness are more than a little different. The form of the
metal is of critical consideration.

[cyclintom]

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Post by Roger Merriman

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Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators.
It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear
will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they
actuate with
almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to
the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks
from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so
on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace,
though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more
simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed
GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators.
That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas -
dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my
previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has
the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up
and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual
angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it
can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the
caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in
the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

It is though very similar to way folks with a brain
injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling
down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months
post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a
joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated
folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to
get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s
spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the
on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday,
glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even
the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and
bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!

Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top
tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how
that could happen and you believe it to be fake science?
Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't
even an engineer of any sort. Flunky is on this
newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working
hours and he has showed us his account where he said
that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them
at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys
you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to
conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped
the ability to post and that was treated successfully
with medication. So the question arises, what has
happened to your ability to think?

You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.

If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent
inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back
out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible
metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?

That's not a high-carbon steel tube, dumbass.

True, but the principles are the same across steels as a
group. The relative numbers vary from one steel alloy or
temper finish to another.

Columbus has tgried justg about every alloy and heat treatment of steel possible in the search for the perfect bicycle tube steel. And during the entire time of steel bikes, every time that they ran preference tests with pros - the pros preferred Thron which is nearly a mild steel.

We are even seeing in carbon fiber bikes that they are making them in such a manner that there is a LOT of "give" in the results of their layups. Even Time stopped making perfectly ridgid bike frames relying on the tires to soften the impacts.

Aluminum frames were not successful until they started using tubing so light that it gave under impact. My DeRosa Merack is lighter than the Idol.

[AMuzi]

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!

Roger, what is doubling down? I had a dent in the top tube and it went away. I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science? Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort. Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides. If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think. The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?

You think that there was a dent which just disappeared.
That did not happen. Or a metaphysical event interceded with
the otherwise solid laws of physics.

If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?

Can't push a top tube dent from the inside for starts.

And reforming a dented panel always necessarily changes the
area of the panel. Often minimally, but after crystal slip
the piece is larger, inherently. See micrographs and
diagrams linked yesterday for further explanation of that.

Beyond the well known principles of metallurgy, this is also
a well known practical impediment to reforming metals in
practice:

https://carsprays.com/small-repairs-dents-scratches/reshaping-damaged-panels/

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by cyclintom
If you leaned against the door of your truck and it bent inwards, so you pulled the liner off and pushed it back out with a "clang!" would you be talking impossible metaphysical events or that you were just imagining it?

A person may be able to disassemble a vehicle door and apply force to a
metal door panel from the inside. If the panel was nearly flat and the
deformation was entirely elastic (which is unlikely) a dent might
possibly be pushed out. More likely, some imperfection will remain for a
body man to address.

A dent in a bike top tube can't be entirely elastic deformation. The
geometry won't allow that. And what magical creature could have gotten
inside your top tube and applied the necessary outward force?

_Nobody_ is believing your story, Tom. It's literally impossible. Please
give it up.

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by cyclintom
I had a dent in the top tube and it went away.

You did not. You may have imagined it or hallucinated it. But that did
not happen. It's impossible.

Post by cyclintom
I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen ...

You did not. You blathered some vaguely related terms that did not give
any justification for such a miracle.

Post by cyclintom
Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer...

The examining and licensing board of two states disagreed with you.

Post by cyclintom
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think.

I don't have training in medicine, but I suspect you're correct. It's
probably not your brain injury that's causing your thinking problems.
It's something else.

[Zen Cycle]

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

It is though very similar to way folks with a brain injury work or rather
don?t I guess, aka confabulation, hence his doubling down as he believes
it.
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>
I totally believed it at the time, was some 6 months post brain injury and
my wife couldn?t get me to understand that it was a joke, took me a day or
so to figure it out!
I?m still unable to accurately parse, more complicated folks intent has
made me rather literal, and wife missed my ability to get jokes and so on.
I occasionally ride around there, though it?s spectacularly muddy at
moment, though is bright and sunny now, I was up on the on the (which is
old road that runs though Avebury) Ridgeway on Tuesday, glorious day, did
nearly eat a hedge on the decent down to Egypt! As even the Magic Mary?s
packed up with mud! I do enjoy the various lumps and bumps in the area ie
henges and other things!

Roger, what is doubling down?

You don't know?

Post by cyclintom
I had a dent in the top tube and it went away.

no, you didn't.

Post by cyclintom
I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science?

You weren't describing what you claim happened to your bike. You
described a number of metallurgical properties - mostly correctly, I
might add - none of which support your assertion.

Post by cyclintom
Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer

Yes, he is

Post by cyclintom
and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort.

Yes, he is

Post by cyclintom
Flunky is on this newsgroup at least 100% during what would be working hours

no matter how many times you tell that lie, it will never become true.
It takes a few minutes a day to expose your lies and misconceptions.

Post by cyclintom
and he has showed us his account where he said that he rode TWO 200 mile rides wityh climbing in them at around 20 mph rides.

Again, no matter how many times you tell that lie, it will never become
true. There are not and never have been any 200 mile rides posted on my
Strava account, let alone at a 20 mph average.

Post by cyclintom
If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.

Likely because we have credibility - not with you of course, but then
you think there was no recession before Obama took office and .

Post by cyclintom
My brain injury caused seizures and not as you seem to conceive - the inability to think.

Your inability to think wasn't caused by your brain injury.

Post by cyclintom
The seizure stopped the ability to post and that was treated successfully with medication. So the question arises, what has happened to your ability to think?

Rogers grasp of reality and logic exceed yours by orders of magnitude.

[Jeff Liebermann]

Post by cyclintom
Roger, what is doubling down?

<https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/double-down-on>
"to continue to do something in an even more determined way than
before"

In other words, repeating your mistakes over and over until they
magically become true or until you wear out the patience of your
audience.

Post by cyclintom
I had a dent in the top tube and it went away.

No, you didn't. Repeating that claim isn't going to make it true.

"Perseveration"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perseveration>
"Perseveration is particularly common with those who have had
traumatic brain injury."

Post by cyclintom
I showed you the SCIENCE of how that could happen and you believe it to be fake science?

I read your explanation. Without proof, it's just a pile of words
that make no sense. I'm not going to waste my time trying to find
your scientific proof online.

What I find amusing is that your goal in all this is to convince your
audience that an obvious falsehood is the truth because you say it's
the truth. Do you expect having your audience accept a lie as proof
that you are the all knowing expert on all things technical? That
sometimes works for those who can't or won't think, but fails
miserably with anyone knowledgeable and experienced in bicycle design,
construction and repair.

Post by cyclintom
Frank is NOT a mechanical engineer and Liebermann isn't even an engineer of any sort.

We've been through that more than a few times. I assume your TBI
damaged brain cannot grasp the significance of the photo of my college
diploma that I posted several time. Here it is, once more:
<Loading Image...>
Be sure to claim that you can view the above URL because your
auntie-virus program is protecting you from harm.

Post by cyclintom
If you believe ANY of these guys you have to ask yourself why.

That's easy. Because "these guys" are usually correct while you are
always wrong.

[Jeff Liebermann]

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.

Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.

[Roger Merriman]

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time!

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

Roger Merriman

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time!

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.

[AMuzi]

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons).
The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne.  With the
trailer wheels
shown, probably less.  The painted rock is likely to be a
fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to
explain at the time!

Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US),
which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one
that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher
rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my
study at home. When the clocks change, I just jack up the
house and rotate it 15 degrees.

Thanks!

I forwarded the above to a friend who's been carping about
clock change for a week.

[John B.]

Post by AMuzi

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons).
The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne.  With the
trailer wheels
shown, probably less.  The painted rock is likely to be a
fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to
explain at the time!

Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US),
which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one
that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher
rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my
study at home. When the clocks change, I just jack up the
house and rotate it 15 degrees.

Thanks!
I forwarded the above to a friend who's been carping about
clock change for a week.

Just do like the "country people" do here. Get up when the sun comes
up and go to bed when it gets dark :-)

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by John B.
Just do like the "country people" do here. Get up when the sun comes
up and go to bed when it gets dark :-)

Around here and farther north, that would waste a lot of time during
winter.

[Roger Merriman]

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by John B.
Just do like the "country people" do here. Get up when the sun comes
up and go to bed when it gets dark :-)

Around here and farther north, that would waste a lot of time during
winter.

I was going to say even London but I think I’m North of you and others but
well the Gulf Stream and being a island makes it much more temperate
climate.

But yes winter makes for short days even in very south of UK, aka it’s dark
on way to work and dark coming home and so on!

Clearly northern England let alone Scotland are much more so.

Roger Merriman

[AMuzi]

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by John B.
Just do like the "country people" do here. Get up when the sun comes
up and go to bed when it gets dark :-)

Around here and farther north, that would waste a lot of time during
winter.

I was going to say even London but I think I’m North of you and others but
well the Gulf Stream and being a island makes it much more temperate
climate.
But yes winter makes for short days even in very south of UK, aka it’s dark
on way to work and dark coming home and so on!
Clearly northern England let alone Scotland are much more so.
Roger Merriman

Your magic evenings in June are a joy. Moreso in Scotland!

[Roger Merriman]

Post by AMuzi

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by John B.
Just do like the "country people" do here. Get up when the sun comes
up and go to bed when it gets dark :-)

Around here and farther north, that would waste a lot of time during
winter.

I was going to say even London but I think I’m North of you and others but
well the Gulf Stream and being a island makes it much more temperate
climate.
But yes winter makes for short days even in very south of UK, aka it’s dark
on way to work and dark coming home and so on!
Clearly northern England let alone Scotland are much more so.
Roger Merriman

Your magic evenings in June are a joy. Moreso in Scotland!

Where I grew up you can tell the time of the year of a photo as in mid
winter it sets in the head of the Valley and mid summer the mouth of the
valley.

My folks place due to the narrowness of the valley get the sun in the later
morning to sunset, so they can enjoy the views with a glass of what ever.

Roger Merriman

[AMuzi]

Post by John B.

Post by AMuzi

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons).
The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne.  With the
trailer wheels
shown, probably less.  The painted rock is likely to be a
fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to
explain at the time!

Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US),
which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one
that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher
rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my
study at home. When the clocks change, I just jack up the
house and rotate it 15 degrees.

Thanks!
I forwarded the above to a friend who's been carping about
clock change for a week.

Just do like the "country people" do here. Get up when the sun comes
up and go to bed when it gets dark :-)

Works for me. I've never used an alarm; I get up around 5
and go to sleep when I'm tired.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time!

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.

"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>

If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.

Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
make things worse. Pick a standard, any standard:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.

I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
by enlarging DST in the US:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>

In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
bill failed to pass:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>

[Catrike Ryder]

Post by Jeff Liebermann
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time!

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.

"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>

I think I favor permanent DST, but, whatever.... it's not an issue
with me. I live on my own time.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

[Zen Cycle]

Post by Jeff Liebermann
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time!

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.

"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>

I would support basing everything off 24 hr GMT. I don't see how that
would make anything 'worse', if anything, it simplifes everything. A
zoom meeting at 1200 is 1200 everywhere, regardless if you're in Berlin
Germany or NYC. No more excuses of forgetting to account for time zones.
No more needing to base your clock setting off longitude.

While we're at it, get rid of the 24/60/60 system, base it all on tens:
Ten hours in a day, ten minutes in an hour, ten seconds in a minute. A
day becomes 1000 seconds long rather than 86400 seconds. We already use
base ten to divide seconds anyway, so subdividing into milli, micro,
pico, nano, and femto seconds will be nothing new, we would just use
them more often (which incidentally would help with converting globally
to the metric system). Plank time wouldn't need to change, just the
conversion to seconds:

https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkt

[Catrike Ryder]

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by Jeff Liebermann
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time!

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.

"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>

I would support basing everything off 24 hr GMT. I don't see how that
would make anything 'worse', if anything, it simplifes everything. A
zoom meeting at 1200 is 1200 everywhere, regardless if you're in Berlin
Germany or NYC. No more excuses of forgetting to account for time zones.
No more needing to base your clock setting off longitude.
Ten hours in a day, ten minutes in an hour, ten seconds in a minute. A
day becomes 1000 seconds long rather than 86400 seconds. We already use
base ten to divide seconds anyway, so subdividing into milli, micro,
pico, nano, and femto seconds will be nothing new, we would just use
them more often (which incidentally would help with converting globally
to the metric system). Plank time wouldn't need to change, just the
https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkt

24 hour (military time) makes so much more sense than AM/PM.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

[AMuzi]

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by Jeff Liebermann
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

On 6 Mar 2025 12:46:35 GMT, Roger Merriman

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or
tons).  The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne.  With the
trailer wheels
shown, probably less.  The painted rock is likely to be
a fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to
explain at the time!

Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016
(US), which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the
one that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher
rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my
study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and
rotate it 15 degrees.

"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-
bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will
become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore
daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to
really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but
that's likely to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and
dollars was saved
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more
"flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is
blowing).  The
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>

I would support basing everything off 24 hr GMT. I don't see
how that would make anything 'worse', if anything, it
simplifes everything. A zoom meeting at 1200 is 1200
everywhere, regardless if you're in Berlin Germany or NYC.
No more excuses of forgetting to account for time zones. No
more needing to base your clock setting off longitude.
While we're at it, get rid of the 24/60/60 system, base it
all on tens: Ten hours in a day, ten minutes in an hour, ten
seconds in a minute. A day becomes 1000 seconds long rather
than 86400 seconds. We already use base ten to divide
seconds anyway, so subdividing into milli, micro, pico,
nano, and femto seconds will be nothing new, we would just
use them more often (which incidentally would help with
converting globally to the metric system). Plank time
https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkt

I came to agree with that as a smartass teenager.

The entire argument gets a glazed look or an eye roll. I
convinced not one person and eventually learned to shut up
about time systems.

[zen cycle]

Post by AMuzi

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by Jeff Liebermann
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?
story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons).  The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne.  With the trailer
wheels
shown, probably less.  The painted rock is likely to be a fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time!

Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.

"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate- bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing).  The
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>

I would support basing everything off 24 hr GMT. I don't see how that
would make anything 'worse', if anything, it simplifes everything. A
zoom meeting at 1200 is 1200 everywhere, regardless if you're in
Berlin Germany or NYC. No more excuses of forgetting to account for
time zones. No more needing to base your clock setting off longitude.
While we're at it, get rid of the 24/60/60 system, base it all on
tens: Ten hours in a day, ten minutes in an hour, ten seconds in a
minute. A day becomes 1000 seconds long rather than 86400 seconds. We
already use base ten to divide seconds anyway, so subdividing into
milli, micro, pico, nano, and femto seconds will be nothing new, we
would just use them more often (which incidentally would help with
converting globally to the metric system). Plank time wouldn't need to
https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkt

I came to agree with that as a smartass teenager.
The entire argument gets a glazed look or an eye roll. I convinced not
one person and eventually learned to shut up about time systems.

+1
lets just say that isn't a hill I'm ready to die on

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by zen cycle

Post by AMuzi

Post by Zen Cycle
While we're at it, get rid of the 24/60/60 system, base it all on
tens: Ten hours in a day, ten minutes in an hour, ten seconds in a
minute. A day becomes 1000 seconds long rather than 86400 seconds. We
already use base ten to divide seconds anyway, so subdividing into
milli, micro, pico, nano, and femto seconds will be nothing new, we
would just use them more often (which incidentally would help with
converting globally to the metric system). Plank time wouldn't need
https://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?plkt

I came to agree with that as a smartass teenager.
The entire argument gets a glazed look or an eye roll. I convinced not
one person and eventually learned to shut up about time systems.

+1
lets just say that isn't a hill I'm ready to die on

Good thing. They tried decimal time during the French Revolution. It
didn't work for them.

[AMuzi]

Post by Jeff Liebermann
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time!

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.

"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>

Benjamin Franklin wrote a few paragraphs in his
Autobiography about enjoying a bright warm early morning in
June while the rest of Philadelphia slept. He postulated
that rising earlier would allow better use of summer sunlight.

From that minor comment, Woodrow Wilson spun it into a
bright shining lie by decreeing DST "to save oil for the war
effort". It doesn't. Economists absolutely love natural
experiments and this is a classic. There is no savings
whatsoever.

Mr Nixon also introduced DST in midwinter 1974 by the same
false reasoning. Diligent research showed no fuel savings at
all.*

Even better, some States have at times changed by county,
leaving adjacent counties (in Indiana for example) with
similar population, economy, latitude and so on with or
without DST. There is no fuel savings.

It's just another bad idea from The Planners, IMHO. People
who rise early enjoy dawn in summer. Those who don't don't.
This is not a national policy problem IMHO.


*I had an excellent first date with a cute waitress the
evening before and had no idea DST was ordered. I dropped
her at her diner at the "wrong" 5am; an hour late. Ouch.

[Catrike Ryder]

Post by AMuzi

Post by Jeff Liebermann
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time!

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.

"S.29 - Sunshine Protection Act of 2025"
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/29/text>
If the bill passes, year round daylight savings time will become the
new standard time unless a state decides to ignore daylight saving
time, leave things alone, or add some more amendments to really screw
things up.
Personally, I wouldn't mind switching to GMT/UTC but that's likely to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_standard>
but don't change the time in mid-year.
I'm still waiting for a study of how much energy and dollars was saved
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States>
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>

Benjamin Franklin wrote a few paragraphs in his
Autobiography about enjoying a bright warm early morning in
June while the rest of Philadelphia slept. He postulated
that rising earlier would allow better use of summer sunlight.
From that minor comment, Woodrow Wilson spun it into a
bright shining lie by decreeing DST "to save oil for the war
effort". It doesn't. Economists absolutely love natural
experiments and this is a classic. There is no savings
whatsoever.
Mr Nixon also introduced DST in midwinter 1974 by the same
false reasoning. Diligent research showed no fuel savings at
all.*
Even better, some States have at times changed by county,
leaving adjacent counties (in Indiana for example) with
similar population, economy, latitude and so on with or
without DST. There is no fuel savings.
It's just another bad idea from The Planners, IMHO. People
who rise early enjoy dawn in summer. Those who don't don't.
This is not a national policy problem IMHO.
*I had an excellent first date with a cute waitress the
evening before and had no idea DST was ordered. I dropped
her at her diner at the "wrong" 5am; an hour late. Ouch.

I live by my own timetable. I'm happy change to clocks so I know what
the rest of the world is doing and to fit into it when I must. (like
my scheduled flight to Colorado in July) Otherwise, after we "spring
ahead," I'll just be sleeping until 3:30 instead of 2:30, and I might
stay up until 8:30. My wife's fancy chime clock will have to be
changed and I'll change the alarm clocks in the bedroom even though we
seldom need an alarm, but most of our clocks and all of our watches
change by themselves. My old bike computer's GPS needed about a half
hour of satellite exposure to adjust, but the new one seems to take it
in stride as do the phone's GPS. We seldom watch a TV show as it's
being broadcast, and the recording changes will be automatic.

For the most part, the DST change is just a pain in the butt.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by Jeff Liebermann
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 11:23:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by Roger Merriman
With apologies for Facebook link!
<https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154178800268586&id=13533633585>

A stone that size would weigh about 25 tonnes (or tons). The trailer
in the video might be able to handle 1 tonne. With the trailer wheels
shown, probably less. The painted rock is likely to be a fake.

All good logical points and my wife probably tried to explain at the time!

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Another clue is that it was posted on Mar 31, 2016 (US), which would
be April 1 in England.

Would have been 2014 the original one, or at least the one that fooled me
for a while, it’s why such folks as my self get a higher rate of
conspiracies theories and gambling and so on.

I did a reflecting ceiling sundial on the ceiling of my study at home.
When the clocks change, I just jack up the house and rotate it 15 degrees.

...

Post by Jeff Liebermann
In 2019, California attempted to make DST more "flexible" (which means
adjust the dates to which way the political wind is blowing). The
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_Proposition_7>

The extra hour of morning daylight never mattered much to me. Mornings
are beautiful, but my body clock doesn't seem interested in them. And
since I set the class schedules for my program at the university, I made
sure I never had early morning classes.

ISTM most companies and other institutions can choose their hours as
they see fit. The large manufacturing company my dad (and briefly, I)
worked at was near the heart of the city. That meant that employees
often dealt with traffic jams from all the other businesses starting and
ending shifts at the same time. So his company shifted the starting and
ending times by a small amount - something like 8:10 to 5:10 - to reduce
employee driving frustration.

[cyclintom]

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh". When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?

[AMuzi]

Post by cyclintom

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh". When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?

I do not have a degree in metallurgy. I do have some
background and experience with steel bicycle tube, and
underlying principles for that.

[Zen Cycle]

Post by cyclintom

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh".

Not nearly as effective as you.

Post by cyclintom
When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?

About the same time I tell you I rode 200 miles in one day.

[Zen Cycle]

Post by cyclintom

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh".

Not nearly as effective as "mr. light lines".

Post by cyclintom
When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?

About the same time I tell you I rode 200 miles in one day.

[cyclintom]

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by cyclintom

Post by Roger Merriman

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are
not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the
brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no
pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Should be, uses same pads/hose fitting kit and so on, and appears to be
same calipers broadly from Tiagra to Dura Ace, though Cues is I believe
doing its own thing! Aka less performance more simple design.

What I was trying to discover was if the 10 speed GRX levers didn't
have the capacity of the 11 speed Ultegra actuators. That occurred to
me in a dream.

Which is where tommy gets most of his silly ideas - dents popping out of
top tubes, for example

Post by cyclintom
But since they are compatible it must be air in the

Post by cyclintom
system. The thing that bothers me is that all of my previous disk
bikes had hard front and back brakes. This setup has the same pull on
front and back and the front is a straight shot up and bled without a
problem.

Because the rear caliper line entry is at an unusual angle. The front
points straight up.
Need to remove the rear caliper form the frame so it can be at the
lowest point in the system, line pointing up. Rap the caliper with a
tool handle while purging the fluid. It has air in the nooks and
crannies of the caliper.

You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh".

Not nearly as effective as "mr. light lines".

Post by cyclintom
When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?

About the same time I tell you I rode 200 miles in one day.

There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there? Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines". You are a nobody that has never done anything and you want to criticise ME for some terminology that you haven't heard before and which makes perfect sense to normal people. I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and know telecommunications. You can't even handle a QC job.

As for your comments about your two 200 mile rides - everyone on here SAW you post that stupid crap and no one believed for one second that you could EVER do that. All you had to do was to erase that bullshit off of your Strava account and pretend that you never said it. But we saw it and you didn't kill that fast enough for everyone to see it.

You find it odd that I changed jobs after finishing a project. That's because you haven't a clue how the electronics industry works. I erased 150 job offers from my gmail account and no one is offering your anything. Those offers are from human resources departments and not employment agencies.

I've got a load of money in the investments and you don't have shit. That is because I know what I'm doing and you are giving baseball scores to your so-called manager. I've got letters of recomendation from PhD's and MsEE's and you;'re giving baseball scores to your manager. Really important work there.

What's it feel like to lie about everything because you really don't have a life? After telling us that you're a racer, we discovered that you're in your mid-60's. After telling us the importance of your job you're nothing more than a QC manager. And even that is questionable since you're on this group and return postings within seconds in answer to other postings. You tell us that you're watching baseball on your computer and your boss asks you what the score is! The score is that you're a liar about everything. I doubt very much that you even have a degree. At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.

[Jeff Liebermann]

Post by cyclintom
Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines".

Nope. Sonic named their fiber optic cable service "Sonic Fiber
Internet". It's been like that for many years:
<https://www.sonic.com>
Since AT&T pulled the plug on all the companies selling DSL, ISDN, etc
service using AT&T copper, Sonic has been selling 10 Gbits/sec as
"Standard Fiber 10 Gigabit". If you add telephone service, it becomes
"Fusion Fiber 10 Gibabit". I took the liberty of checking if Sonic
Fiber Internet is available at your house. It's available. $60/month
including phone, but not including taxes.

Incidentally, searching their site for "light lines" does not produce
anything even close. Try it yourself:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fsonic.com%20light%20line>

Post by cyclintom
I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and know telecommunications.

I'll assume that the "know" is a typo mistake. Google could find
anything in the "Hawk Telephone and telecommunications". For that
matter, searching for "Telephone and Telcommunications also failed,
probably because that's a really dumb name for a company. Telephone
is a sub-set of Telecommunications. Telecommunications by itself
would have been adequate. Incidentally, Hawk is not on your online
resume:
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>

However, I did find something close, in Camden, New South Wales.
<https://hawk.tel>
I didn't know you provided phone service in England.

Post by cyclintom
At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.

Can't stand to read the truth, so you add your graffiti to the tail
end? Anyway, it seems you're now able to successfully read URL's that
I post without having your Aunti-Virus program protect you from the
dire consequences of reading the truth. Congratulation, whatever you
did to fix it.

[zen cycle]

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by cyclintom
Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines".

Nope. Sonic named their fiber optic cable service "Sonic Fiber
<https://www.sonic.com>
Since AT&T pulled the plug on all the companies selling DSL, ISDN, etc
service using AT&T copper, Sonic has been selling 10 Gbits/sec as
"Standard Fiber 10 Gigabit". If you add telephone service, it becomes
"Fusion Fiber 10 Gibabit". I took the liberty of checking if Sonic
Fiber Internet is available at your house. It's available. $60/month
including phone, but not including taxes.
Incidentally, searching their site for "light lines" does not produce
<https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fsonic.com%20light%20line>

Post by cyclintom
I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and know telecommunications.

I'll assume that the "know" is a typo mistake. Google could find
anything in the "Hawk Telephone and telecommunications". For that
matter, searching for "Telephone and Telcommunications also failed,
probably because that's a really dumb name for a company. Telephone
is a sub-set of Telecommunications. Telecommunications by itself
would have been adequate. Incidentally, Hawk is not on your online
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>

I posit there's a good reason for that: Tommy was working under the
table pulling cable for a small outfit that didn't have an internet
presence sometime in the 1980s after he had been laid off/fired from
some other. They were pulling copper, not fiber (er, excuse me...."light
lines", lol). He wasn't an owner, he was just another body they could
pay cheap to do grunt wiring.

Post by Jeff Liebermann
However, I did find something close, in Camden, New South Wales.
<https://hawk.tel>
I didn't know you provided phone service in England.

Post by cyclintom
At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.

Can't stand to read the truth, so you add your graffiti to the tail
end? Anyway, it seems you're now able to successfully read URL's that
I post without having your Aunti-Virus program protect you from the
dire consequences of reading the truth. Congratulation, whatever you
did to fix it.

[cyclintom]

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by cyclintom
Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines".

Nope. Sonic named their fiber optic cable service "Sonic Fiber
<https://www.sonic.com>
Since AT&T pulled the plug on all the companies selling DSL, ISDN, etc
service using AT&T copper, Sonic has been selling 10 Gbits/sec as
"Standard Fiber 10 Gigabit". If you add telephone service, it becomes
"Fusion Fiber 10 Gibabit". I took the liberty of checking if Sonic
Fiber Internet is available at your house. It's available. $60/month
including phone, but not including taxes.
Incidentally, searching their site for "light lines" does not produce
<https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fsonic.com%20light%20line>

Post by cyclintom
I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and know telecommunications.

I'll assume that the "know" is a typo mistake. Google could find
anything in the "Hawk Telephone and telecommunications". For that
matter, searching for "Telephone and Telcommunications also failed,
probably because that's a really dumb name for a company. Telephone
is a sub-set of Telecommunications. Telecommunications by itself
would have been adequate. Incidentally, Hawk is not on your online
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
However, I did find something close, in Camden, New South Wales.
<https://hawk.tel>
I didn't know you provided phone service in England.

Post by cyclintom
At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.

Can't stand to read the truth, so you add your graffiti to the tail
end? Anyway, it seems you're now able to successfully read URL's that
I post without having your Aunti-Virus program protect you from the
dire consequences of reading the truth. Congratulation, whatever you
did to fix it.

Now Liebermann was standing behind me listening to what was said. And he is telling us that he cannot find a reference on Hawk Telephone two decades after Robert Hawkins has died. So obviously a similar name in Australia must be what I was talking about. Exactly what is wrong with you? Cannot you see your own insane replies?

Talk about myu LinkedIn resume some more - here is yours:


OwnerOwner
Liebermann Design Self-employedLiebermann Design Self-employedJun 1984 - Dec 2020 36 yrs 7 mosJun 1984 to Dec 2020 36 yrs 7 mosSanta Cruz, California, United StatesSanta Cruz, California, United States
Computer repair, consulting, forensics, magic, and miracles.Computer repair, consulting, forensics, magic, and miracles.
Radio Frequency Engineer
Radio Frequency EngineerRadio Frequency Engineer
Intech Inc Full-timeIntech Inc Full-timeApr 1984 - Oct 1984 7 mosApr 1984 to Oct 1984 7 mosSanta Clara, California, United StatesSanta Clara, California, United States
Design of 1kw VMOS 2-30 MHz Amplifier.
Design of 40 watt VMOS driver for above.
Construction of 1kw NMR driver amp.Design of 1kw VMOS 2-30 MHz Amplifier. Design of 40 watt VMOS driver for above. Construction of 1kw NMR driver amp.see more
Radio Frequency Design Engineer
Radio Frequency Design EngineerRadio Frequency Design Engineer
Granger Assoc Full-timeGranger Assoc Full-timeJun 1981 - Jun 1983 2 yrs 1 moJun 1981 to Jun 1983 2 yrs 1 moSanta Clara, California, United StatesSanta Clara, California, United States
Designed 900MHz wireless SCADA system.Designed 900MHz wireless SCADA system.
Engineer
EngineerEngineer
Intech Inc Full-timeIntech Inc Full-timeJun 1973 - Jun 1981 8 yrs 1 moJun 1973 to Jun 1981 8 yrs 1 moSanta Clara, California, United StatesSanta Clara, California, United States
Designed various HF/VHF/UHF, FM/SSB/data radios.Designed various HF/VHF/UHF, FM/SSB/data radios.
Radio Frequency Engineer
Radio Frequency EngineerRadio Frequency Engineer
Standard Communications Corp Full-timeStandard Communications Corp Full-timeFeb 1973 - Jun 1973 5 mosFeb 1973 to Jun 1973 5 mosWilmington, CaliforniaWilmington, California
Design and retrofit CTCSS encoders and decoders in SCC VHF radios.Design and retrofit CTCSS encoders and decoders in SCC VHF radios.
Show all 7 experiences
EducationEducation

California State Polytechnic University-PomonaCalifornia State Polytechnic University-Pomona
BSEE, Electrical and Electronic EnginneeringBSEE, Electrical and Electronic EnginneeringSep 1968 - Jun 1971Sep 1968 - Jun 1971
Activities and societies: Rose Float, IEEEActivities and societies: Rose Float, IEEE

California State University, NorthridgeCalifornia State University, Northridge
Electrical and Electronics EngineeringElectrical and Electronics EngineeringSep 1967 - Jun 1968



Explain why no one gave you a letter of recommendation.

[Jeff Liebermann]

Post by cyclintom
Explain why no one gave you a letter of recommendation.

Because nobody has ever asked for one. I provided a 2 page printed
resume, which included some references. The prospective employer
would then call a few of the references and ask some questions, mostly
to make sure I am who I claim to be. This was done by HR which is not
involved in assessing competence or experience.

I really like your 3 recommendations on your online resume:
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/recommendations/?detailScreenTabIndex=0>
The first is from a bitcoin scammer who seems to have a sideline
recommending you in trade for you recommending them.

The third seems quite real, but doesn't say much.

The 2nd recommendation is for a programming position. It looks real,
but there's a problem. I tried and failed to find Shaun Michael
(Mick) McCown online. His LinkedIn page has not been updated since
2011:
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/doc0949/details/experience/>
CSC appears to be a law firm in Newark, DE.
<https://www.cscglobal.com/cscglobal/home/>
I filled out the information form on the CSC web site asking if Mr
McCown was working for or with CSC. No reply. Is he still alive?

This is why letters of recommendation don't work very well. The
answer questions that nobody asks or cares about. Where letters of
recommendation do work is where the sender and recipient both know
each other professionally.

[John B.]

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by cyclintom
Explain why no one gave you a letter of recommendation.

Because nobody has ever asked for one. I provided a 2 page printed
resume, which included some references. The prospective employer
would then call a few of the references and ask some questions, mostly
to make sure I am who I claim to be. This was done by HR which is not
involved in assessing competence or experience.
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/recommendations/?detailScreenTabIndex=0>
The first is from a bitcoin scammer who seems to have a sideline
recommending you in trade for you recommending them.
The third seems quite real, but doesn't say much.
The 2nd recommendation is for a programming position. It looks real,
but there's a problem. I tried and failed to find Shaun Michael
(Mick) McCown online. His LinkedIn page has not been updated since
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/doc0949/details/experience/>
CSC appears to be a law firm in Newark, DE.
<https://www.cscglobal.com/cscglobal/home/>
I filled out the information form on the CSC web site asking if Mr
McCown was working for or with CSC. No reply. Is he still alive?
This is why letters of recommendation don't work very well. The
answer questions that nobody asks or cares about. Where letters of
recommendation do work is where the sender and recipient both know
each other professionally.

Because the company I worked for was in Indonesia we had a
"representative" in several countries and the one in the U.S. often
received resumes, which he would review and forward to the Jakarta
office if he thought we might be interested in the individual.

As resumes got bundled and airmailed weight was of some interest and
the first to hit the garbage were any with recommendations. "This is
the most competent bloke I ever met...." and the next sound was the
resume hitting the wastepaper bucket.

[zen cycle]

Post by cyclintom

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by cyclintom
You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh".

Not nearly as effective as "mr. light lines".

Post by cyclintom
When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?

About the same time I tell you I rode 200 miles in one day.

There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?

point out the lie.

Post by cyclintom
Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines".

No, he didn't use the term 'light lines'.

https://www.sonic.com/

"Sonic Fiber Internet named Fastest All-Around Internet in America by
PCMag.....
Our 100% wholly owned 10-Gigabit fiber network provides the fastest,
most reliable internet connection to your home,"

"Fiber home internet with no contracts."

If you can find the term 'light lines' anywhere on there website, post a
link (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed, There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?).

Post by cyclintom
You are a nobody that has never done anything and you want to criticise ME for some terminology that you haven't heard before and which makes perfect sense to normal people. I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and know telecommunications.

Which means you should know better (There's absolutely nothing that
you're not willing to lie about is there?)

Post by cyclintom
You can't even handle a QC job.

It's a good thing I don't have a QC job then.

Post by cyclintom
As for your comments about your two 200 mile rides - everyone on here SAW you post that stupid crap

They did? I'd love for someone besides you to show where I wrote that or
posted a link to it. (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed,
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)

Post by cyclintom
and no one believed for one second that you could EVER do that.

Which is fine, because I never claimed I could, and there was never any
activity on my Strava account longer that 93 miles (There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)

Post by cyclintom
All you had to do was to erase that bullshit off of your Strava account and pretend that you never said it. But we saw it and you didn't kill that fast enough for everyone to see it.

Again, I'd love for someone besides you to claim they saw a 200 mile
ride posted. It never happened, dumbass. Besides that, If there was ever
a 200 mile ride all the people I ride with and follow who my Strava
profile would have seen it and called bullshit (That's 75 people as of
now that I've ridden with, some for many decades). There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?

Post by cyclintom
You find it odd that I changed jobs after finishing a project. That's because you haven't a clue how the electronics industry works.

Gee, that's funny since, I've been employed consistently in the
electronics industry since 1983 and didn't bounce around from job to job
due to incompetence.

Post by cyclintom
I erased 150 job offers from my gmail account and no one is offering your anything. Those offers are from human resources departments and not employment agencies.

They aren't job offers, tommy. We know it, and you've never posted
anything indicating these claims were true. There's absolutely nothing
that you're not willing to lie about is there?

Post by cyclintom
I've got a load of money in the investments and you don't have shit.

And yet after 5 years of allegedly having a million dollar investment,
it's still only a million (quite a return you've been getting there,
sparky!) There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about
is there?

Post by cyclintom
That is because I know what I'm doing and you are giving baseball scores to your so-called manager. I've got letters of recomendation from PhD's and MsEE's and you;'re giving baseball scores to your manager. Really important work there.

Please post any reference to where I ever claimed I watch baseball, not
just at work, but anytime (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed,
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)

Post by cyclintom
What's it feel like to lie about everything because you really don't have a life? After telling us that you're a racer, we discovered that you're in your mid-60's.

60 year olds aren't allowed to race?

Post by cyclintom
After telling us the importance of your job

Where did I ever make such a claim?

Post by cyclintom
you're nothing more than a QC manager.

No, tommy, I don't work in QC. Besides, QC managers make excellent
salaries and generally report directly to the CEO of a company. It's
hardly a position that qualifies as "nothing more".

https://www.salary.com/research/salary/listing/director-of-quality-salary/boston-ma

There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?

Post by cyclintom
And even that is questionable

Yes, it's highly questionable that I'm a QC manager, because I'm not

Post by cyclintom
since you're on this group and return postings within seconds in answer to other postings.

sometimes....It's too bad you never had a job where your boss wasn't
constantly hovering over you. I guess that pretty much shows who is/was
considered to be competent by their managers.

Post by cyclintom
You tell us that you're watching baseball on your computer and your boss asks you what the score is!

No matter how many rimes you tell that lie, it will never become true.
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?

Post by cyclintom
The score is that you're a liar about everything.

And yet you still haven't managed to prove anything I've ever written is
a lie, or even that anything you've ever written is the truth.

Post by cyclintom
I doubt very much that you even have a degree.

lol, why, because you haven't managed to prove that 'light lines' is a
term used for fiber optic telecom or that PWM is used to test cables?

Post by cyclintom
At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.

From what he's written, it seems he's made fine use of it.

[cyclintom]

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by cyclintom
You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh".

Not nearly as effective as "mr. light lines".

Post by cyclintom
When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?

About the same time I tell you I rode 200 miles in one day.

There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?

point out the lie.

Post by cyclintom
Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines".

No, he didn't use the term 'light lines'.
https://www.sonic.com/
"Sonic Fiber Internet named Fastest All-Around Internet in America by
PCMag.....
Our 100% wholly owned 10-Gigabit fiber network provides the fastest,
most reliable internet connection to your home,"
"Fiber home internet with no contracts."
If you can find the term 'light lines' anywhere on there website, post a
link (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed, There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?).

Post by cyclintom
You are a nobody that has never done anything and you want to criticise ME for some terminology that you haven't heard before and which makes perfect sense to normal people. I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and know telecommunications.

Which means you should know better (There's absolutely nothing that
you're not willing to lie about is there?)

Post by cyclintom
You can't even handle a QC job.

It's a good thing I don't have a QC job then.

Post by cyclintom
As for your comments about your two 200 mile rides - everyone on here SAW you post that stupid crap

They did? I'd love for someone besides you to show where I wrote that or
posted a link to it. (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed,
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)

Post by cyclintom
and no one believed for one second that you could EVER do that.

Which is fine, because I never claimed I could, and there was never any
activity on my Strava account longer that 93 miles (There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)

Post by cyclintom
All you had to do was to erase that bullshit off of your Strava account and pretend that you never said it. But we saw it and you didn't kill that fast enough for everyone to see it.

Again, I'd love for someone besides you to claim they saw a 200 mile
ride posted. It never happened, dumbass. Besides that, If there was ever
a 200 mile ride all the people I ride with and follow who my Strava
profile would have seen it and called bullshit (That's 75 people as of
now that I've ridden with, some for many decades). There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?

Post by cyclintom
You find it odd that I changed jobs after finishing a project. That's because you haven't a clue how the electronics industry works.

Gee, that's funny since, I've been employed consistently in the
electronics industry since 1983 and didn't bounce around from job to job
due to incompetence.

Post by cyclintom
I erased 150 job offers from my gmail account and no one is offering your anything. Those offers are from human resources departments and not employment agencies.

They aren't job offers, tommy. We know it, and you've never posted
anything indicating these claims were true. There's absolutely nothing
that you're not willing to lie about is there?

Post by cyclintom
I've got a load of money in the investments and you don't have shit.

And yet after 5 years of allegedly having a million dollar investment,
it's still only a million (quite a return you've been getting there,
sparky!) There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about
is there?

Post by cyclintom
That is because I know what I'm doing and you are giving baseball scores to your so-called manager. I've got letters of recomendation from PhD's and MsEE's and you;'re giving baseball scores to your manager. Really important work there.

Please post any reference to where I ever claimed I watch baseball, not
just at work, but anytime (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed,
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)

Post by cyclintom
What's it feel like to lie about everything because you really don't have a life? After telling us that you're a racer, we discovered that you're in your mid-60's.

60 year olds aren't allowed to race?

Post by cyclintom
After telling us the importance of your job

Where did I ever make such a claim?

Post by cyclintom
you're nothing more than a QC manager.

No, tommy, I don't work in QC. Besides, QC managers make excellent
salaries and generally report directly to the CEO of a company. It's
hardly a position that qualifies as "nothing more".
https://www.salary.com/research/salary/listing/director-of-quality-salary/boston-ma
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?

Post by cyclintom
And even that is questionable

Yes, it's highly questionable that I'm a QC manager, because I'm not

Post by cyclintom
since you're on this group and return postings within seconds in answer to other postings.

sometimes....It's too bad you never had a job where your boss wasn't
constantly hovering over you. I guess that pretty much shows who is/was
considered to be competent by their managers.

Post by cyclintom
You tell us that you're watching baseball on your computer and your boss asks you what the score is!

No matter how many rimes you tell that lie, it will never become true.
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?

Post by cyclintom
The score is that you're a liar about everything.

And yet you still haven't managed to prove anything I've ever written is
a lie, or even that anything you've ever written is the truth.

Post by cyclintom
I doubt very much that you even have a degree.

lol, why, because you haven't managed to prove that 'light lines' is a
term used for fiber optic telecom or that PWM is used to test cables?

Post by cyclintom
At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.

From what he's written, it seems he's made fine use of it.

Why haven't you made any money if QC directors make so much money? Or is the problem your belief that you have to throw money away to prove you have it.

My wife needed some dental work so I just wrote her a check for $3,000. My financial report is due over the next couple of days. Should I give you an overview?

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by cyclintom
My wife needed some dental work so I just wrote her a check for $3,000.

Um... is that supposed to be impressive? I'd think most of us have
written checks many times bigger.

Post by cyclintom
My financial report is due over the next couple of days. Should I give you an overview?

Please do! Include your account numbers, login ID an password, please! ;-)

[Zen Cycle]

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by cyclintom
My wife needed some dental work so I just wrote her a check for $3,000.

Um... is that supposed to be impressive? I'd think most of us have
written checks many times bigger.

Right - Last year I had my roof re-shingled and the driveway replaced -
Total of ~15K, paid for with checks. A few months ago I spent 3K on a
new exhaust system, paid with a debit card.

Tommy has no money. Note how he's gone from "I'm saving my money to will
to my step-children" to "I gave 60K to my brothers and eat at pricey
restaurants almost every night" to explain why in 5 years, his million
dollar investments are still only worth a million, then accuses everyone
who disagrees with him on politics of being broke.

jutelist #2. "Repeatedly accusing people of being on welfare. He worries
that he'll end up on welfare."

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by cyclintom
My financial report is due over the next couple of days. Should I give you an overview?

Please do! Include your account numbers, login ID an password, please!  ;-)

[Zen Cycle]

Post by cyclintom

Post by zen cycle

Post by cyclintom

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by cyclintom
You are very effective at saying "duhhhhh".

Not nearly as effective as "mr. light lines".

Post by cyclintom
When are you going toi tell us that you have a PhD in metalurgy?

About the same time I tell you I rode 200 miles in one day.

There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?

point out the lie.

Post by cyclintom
Yeserday some agent from Sonic stopped by and in the process of trying to sell me a "cheaper" internet servive, called their optical connections "light lines".

No, he didn't use the term 'light lines'.
https://www.sonic.com/
"Sonic Fiber Internet named Fastest All-Around Internet in America by
PCMag.....
Our 100% wholly owned 10-Gigabit fiber network provides the fastest,
most reliable internet connection to your home,"
"Fiber home internet with no contracts."
If you can find the term 'light lines' anywhere on there website, post a
link (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed, There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?).

Post by cyclintom
You are a nobody that has never done anything and you want to criticise ME for some terminology that you haven't heard before and which makes perfect sense to normal people. I was PARTNER in a telecom company - Hawk Telephone and know telecommunications.

Which means you should know better (There's absolutely nothing that
you're not willing to lie about is there?)

Post by cyclintom
You can't even handle a QC job.

It's a good thing I don't have a QC job then.

Post by cyclintom
As for your comments about your two 200 mile rides - everyone on here SAW you post that stupid crap

They did? I'd love for someone besides you to show where I wrote that or
posted a link to it. (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed,
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)

Post by cyclintom
and no one believed for one second that you could EVER do that.

Which is fine, because I never claimed I could, and there was never any
activity on my Strava account longer that 93 miles (There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)

Post by cyclintom
All you had to do was to erase that bullshit off of your Strava account and pretend that you never said it. But we saw it and you didn't kill that fast enough for everyone to see it.

Again, I'd love for someone besides you to claim they saw a 200 mile
ride posted. It never happened, dumbass. Besides that, If there was ever
a 200 mile ride all the people I ride with and follow who my Strava
profile would have seen it and called bullshit (That's 75 people as of
now that I've ridden with, some for many decades). There's absolutely
nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?

Post by cyclintom
You find it odd that I changed jobs after finishing a project. That's because you haven't a clue how the electronics industry works.

Gee, that's funny since, I've been employed consistently in the
electronics industry since 1983 and didn't bounce around from job to job
due to incompetence.

Post by cyclintom
I erased 150 job offers from my gmail account and no one is offering your anything. Those offers are from human resources departments and not employment agencies.

They aren't job offers, tommy. We know it, and you've never posted
anything indicating these claims were true. There's absolutely nothing
that you're not willing to lie about is there?

Post by cyclintom
I've got a load of money in the investments and you don't have shit.

And yet after 5 years of allegedly having a million dollar investment,
it's still only a million (quite a return you've been getting there,
sparky!) There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about
is there?

Post by cyclintom
That is because I know what I'm doing and you are giving baseball scores to your so-called manager. I've got letters of recomendation from PhD's and MsEE's and you;'re giving baseball scores to your manager. Really important work there.

Please post any reference to where I ever claimed I watch baseball, not
just at work, but anytime (and thus, yet another lie of tommy's exposed,
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?)

Post by cyclintom
What's it feel like to lie about everything because you really don't have a life? After telling us that you're a racer, we discovered that you're in your mid-60's.

60 year olds aren't allowed to race?

Post by cyclintom
After telling us the importance of your job

Where did I ever make such a claim?

Post by cyclintom
you're nothing more than a QC manager.

No, tommy, I don't work in QC. Besides, QC managers make excellent
salaries and generally report directly to the CEO of a company. It's
hardly a position that qualifies as "nothing more".
https://www.salary.com/research/salary/listing/director-of-quality-salary/boston-ma
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?

Post by cyclintom
And even that is questionable

Yes, it's highly questionable that I'm a QC manager, because I'm not

Post by cyclintom
since you're on this group and return postings within seconds in answer to other postings.

sometimes....It's too bad you never had a job where your boss wasn't
constantly hovering over you. I guess that pretty much shows who is/was
considered to be competent by their managers.

Post by cyclintom
You tell us that you're watching baseball on your computer and your boss asks you what the score is!

No matter how many rimes you tell that lie, it will never become true.
There's absolutely nothing that you're not willing to lie about is there?

Post by cyclintom
The score is that you're a liar about everything.

And yet you still haven't managed to prove anything I've ever written is
a lie, or even that anything you've ever written is the truth.

Post by cyclintom
I doubt very much that you even have a degree.

lol, why, because you haven't managed to prove that 'light lines' is a
term used for fiber optic telecom or that PWM is used to test cables?

Post by cyclintom
At least Liebermann showed everyone a picture of his degree even if he was never able to actually make use of it.

From what he's written, it seems he's made fine use of it.

Why haven't you made any money if QC directors make so much money?

Because I'm not a QC director.

Post by cyclintom
Or is the problem your belief that you have to throw money away to prove you have it.

Where did you get the idea that I throw money away, mr. "I eat out at
pricey restaurants almost every night"?

Post by cyclintom
My wife needed some dental work so I just wrote her a check for $3,000.

My insurance just covered my wife's root canal. Don't you have dental
insurance?

Post by cyclintom
My financial report is due over the next couple of days. Should I

give you an overview?

No need, we know, 'I just made another $12,000 off my investments.'

Yet after 5 years with a million in investments, it's still only worth a
million. In other words, you're completely full of shit.

Is there nothing you won't lie about?

[Mark J cleary]

Post by cyclintom
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

This is a common problem if I understand it correct from you. The travel
of the brake levers hits the bars before the pads fully engage or stop.
The first thing to do is take of the bleed nipple in the shifter and
pump it lightly with the wheel in lace. You likely have air in the
system that is not fully out. Just pump a little at a time no all the
way down to allow air to come up out of the top. Might need to do it
twice. It can be that you need to even add bit of fluid to the brakes
but see how this goes and report back.

[Joerg]

Post by Mark J cleary

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra  actuators. It acts as if these
are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump"
the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

This is a common problem if I understand it correct from you. The travel
of the brake levers hits the bars before the pads fully engage or stop.
The first thing to do is take of the bleed nipple in the shifter and
pump it lightly with the wheel in lace. You likely have air in the
system that is not fully out. Just pump a little at a time no all the
way down to allow air to come up out of the top. Might need to do it
twice. It can be that you need to even add bit of fluid to the brakes
but see how this goes and report back.

Tom, look at the brake pads closely while pulling the handle very
slowly. If they travel the whole time while pulling they might be
incompatible. But that would be really odd.

If they engage the rotor and stop there but you can pull the handle
farther without the pads moving, that indicates air in the system like
Mark said. Very dangerous and it needs to be bled off.

When the pads hit the rotor there should instantly be a hard-stop
feeling in the brake lever. There should also never be a need to "pump"
bike disc brakes except during the bleeding process.

[cyclintom]

Post by Joerg

Post by Mark J cleary

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these
are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump"
the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

This is a common problem if I understand it correct from you. The travel
of the brake levers hits the bars before the pads fully engage or stop.
The first thing to do is take of the bleed nipple in the shifter and
pump it lightly with the wheel in lace. You likely have air in the
system that is not fully out. Just pump a little at a time no all the
way down to allow air to come up out of the top. Might need to do it
twice. It can be that you need to even add bit of fluid to the brakes
but see how this goes and report back.

Tom, look at the brake pads closely while pulling the handle very
slowly. If they travel the whole time while pulling they might be
incompatible. But that would be really odd.
If they engage the rotor and stop there but you can pull the handle
farther without the pads moving, that indicates air in the system like
Mark said. Very dangerous and it needs to be bled off.
When the pads hit the rotor there should instantly be a hard-stop
feeling in the brake lever. There should also never be a need to "pump"
bike disc brakes except during the bleeding process.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Good to see you around Joerg. My suspicion is that there is still air in the system, rather than the GRX levers not having sufficient capacity for the Ultegra actuators. The Shimano manual and video showed bleeding the brakes from the bottom up but the video of a mechanic swhowed him bleeding the brakes from to to bottom. When I tried that method I extracted a LOT of air and the levers began working. I seemed to be drawing pure fluid but I expect that there is still air in the system to the back discs. I am a little surprised that the front brake which is all up has the same lever pull though. That is why I questioned the compatibility. I began wondering if the 10 speed GRX levers have the capacity to drive the 11 speed Ultegra actuators.

[Joerg]

Post by cyclintom

Post by Joerg

Post by Mark J cleary

Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these
are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump"
the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

This is a common problem if I understand it correct from you. The travel
of the brake levers hits the bars before the pads fully engage or stop.
The first thing to do is take of the bleed nipple in the shifter and
pump it lightly with the wheel in lace. You likely have air in the
system that is not fully out. Just pump a little at a time no all the
way down to allow air to come up out of the top. Might need to do it
twice. It can be that you need to even add bit of fluid to the brakes
but see how this goes and report back.

Tom, look at the brake pads closely while pulling the handle very
slowly. If they travel the whole time while pulling they might be
incompatible. But that would be really odd.
If they engage the rotor and stop there but you can pull the handle
farther without the pads moving, that indicates air in the system like
Mark said. Very dangerous and it needs to be bled off.
When the pads hit the rotor there should instantly be a hard-stop
feeling in the brake lever. There should also never be a need to "pump"
bike disc brakes except during the bleeding process.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Good to see you around Joerg. My suspicion is that there is still air in the system, rather than the GRX levers not having sufficient capacity for the Ultegra actuators. The Shimano manual and video showed bleeding the brakes from the bottom up but the video of a mechanic swhowed him bleeding the brakes from to to bottom. When I tried that method I extracted a LOT of air and the levers began working. I seemed to be drawing pure fluid but I expect that there is still air in the system to the back discs. I am a little surprised that the front brake which is all up has the same lever pull though. That is why I questioned the compatibility. I began wondering if the 10 speed GRX levers have the capacity to drive the 11 speed Ultegra actuators.

Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how did
that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound healthy.

In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm, and
bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB brakes. Only
very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always feel firm but I do
it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a surpsise brake fade. I
have seen that happen with a rider in front of me on a long downhill.
His front faded but since he was a good dirt bike rider he saved the
situation with a nice sideways slide, stopping in a massive plume of
dust. And some expletives.

[Zen Cycle]

Post by Joerg
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how did
that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm, and
bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB brakes. Only
very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always feel firm but I do
it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a surpsise brake fade. I
have seen that happen with a rider in front of me on a long downhill.
His front faded but since he was a good dirt bike rider he saved the
situation with a nice sideways slide, stopping in a massive plume of
dust. And some expletives.

“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow what
a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson

[Joerg]

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by Joerg
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm, and
bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB brakes.
Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always feel firm
but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a surpsise brake
fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of me on a long
downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt bike rider he
saved the situation with a nice sideways slide, stopping in a massive
plume of dust. And some expletives.

“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow what
a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson

Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)

[zen cycle]

Post by Joerg

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by Joerg
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of
me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.

“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow
what a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson

Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)

lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is
going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).

"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"

[John B.]

On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle

Post by zen cycle

Post by Joerg

Post by Joerg
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of
me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.

“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow
what a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson

Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)

lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is
going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"

What is a "Fire Pit"?

[Jeff Liebermann]

Post by John B.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle

Post by zen cycle

Post by Joerg

Post by Joerg
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of
me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.

“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow
what a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson

Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)

lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is
going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"

What is a "Fire Pit"?

<https://www.google.com/search?q=fire%20pit&udm=2>
Primitive man was a pyromaniac. Whenever the necessary combustibles
and appropriate weather were available, primitive man would start and
tend a fire. Most sources claim that the fire was mostly to keep man
warm during various ice ages. However, I believe the man was
hypnotized by the flickering flame.

At some point in the distance past, man set fire to his dinner and
thus invented cooking. Even though gas, electric, microwave and hot
air ovens have long ago replaced the an open fire for cooking, both
cooking and pyromania are still with us today as demonstrated by
rapidly increasing fire pit sales and wildfire statistics.
<https://www.grandviewresearch.com/horizon/outlook/fire-pits-market-size/global>

[John B.]

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by John B.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle

Post by zen cycle

Post by Joerg

Post by Joerg
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of
me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.

“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow
what a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson

Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)

lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is
going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"

What is a "Fire Pit"?

<https://www.google.com/search?q=fire%20pit&udm=2>
Primitive man was a pyromaniac. Whenever the necessary combustibles
and appropriate weather were available, primitive man would start and
tend a fire. Most sources claim that the fire was mostly to keep man
warm during various ice ages. However, I believe the man was
hypnotized by the flickering flame.
At some point in the distance past, man set fire to his dinner and
thus invented cooking. Even though gas, electric, microwave and hot
air ovens have long ago replaced the an open fire for cooking, both
cooking and pyromania are still with us today as demonstrated by
rapidly increasing fire pit sales and wildfire statistics.
<https://www.grandviewresearch.com/horizon/outlook/fire-pits-market-size/global>

Interesting... Both of my wives were Orientals and grew up cooking
over something that would, I guess, be called a "fire pit" in the U.S.
and after we married I, with giving it much thought, bought the usual
"kitchen" devices, Fridge, gas stove, etc., and both wives thought the
gas stove was an amazing invention. In fact both wives viewed the
Fridges with some skepticism - You want to keep That Much beer cold --
as both felt that a "proper wife" would go to the market early each
morning to be sure that THEIR husband got only fresh food to eat.

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Primitive man was a pyromaniac. Whenever the necessary combustibles
and appropriate weather were available, primitive man would start and
tend a fire. Most sources claim that the fire was mostly to keep man
warm during various ice ages. However, I believe the man was
hypnotized by the flickering flame.
At some point in the distance past, man set fire to his dinner and
thus invented cooking.

I read an interesting article claiming that fire may have been critical
to evolution of humans. The claim was that cooking makes food much
easier to digest, and thus extract nutritional calories.

Since our large brains consume an outsized portion of our calories, that
cooking over fire was necessary to the evolution of large brains.
Without cooking, the theory goes, large brained proto-humans would have
starved.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC124895/

"In the average adult human, the brain represents about 2% of the body
weight. Remarkably, despite its relatively small size, the brain
accounts for about 20% of the oxygen and, hence, calories consumed by
the body."

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 22:00:21 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Primitive man was a pyromaniac. Whenever the necessary combustibles
and appropriate weather were available, primitive man would start and
tend a fire. Most sources claim that the fire was mostly to keep man
warm during various ice ages. However, I believe the man was
hypnotized by the flickering flame.
At some point in the distance past, man set fire to his dinner and
thus invented cooking.

I read an interesting article claiming that fire may have been critical
to evolution of humans. The claim was that cooking makes food much
easier to digest, and thus extract nutritional calories.
Since our large brains consume an outsized portion of our calories, that
cooking over fire was necessary to the evolution of large brains.
Without cooking, the theory goes, large brained proto-humans would have
starved.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC124895/
"In the average adult human, the brain represents about 2% of the body
weight. Remarkably, despite its relatively small size, the brain
accounts for about 20% of the oxygen and, hence, calories consumed by
the body."

I don't think it's 20% oxygen (by weight) but rather is 20% sugar or
glucose (by weight):

"Sugar for the brain: the role of glucose in physiological and
pathological brain function"
<https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3900881/>
Same as above except in easier to read PDF format:
<https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3900881/pdf/nihms-510105.pdf>
"In humans, the brain accounts for ~2% of the body weight, but it
consumes ~20% of glucose-derived energy making it the main consumer of
glucose (~5.6 mg glucose per 100 g human brain tissue per minute)."

"It has been suggested that action potentials have been rendered
highly efficient through evolution, and thus most of the energy
consumed in the brain is used on synaptic activity"

Also, please note that oxygen, by itself, does NOT contain calories.

"Does oxygen have a calorific value?"
<https://www.quora.com/Does-oxygen-have-a-calorific-value>
"Oxygen itself does not have a calorific value because it is not a
fuel. Calorific value refers to the amount of energy released when a
substance is burned or oxidized. Oxygen is an oxidizing agent that
supports combustion; it reacts with fuels to produce energy, but it
does not contain energy that can be released on its own."

In simpler terms, the amount of energy consumed by the brain is
proportional to the amount of smoke billowing from the ears, which
explains why thinking is best performed around a fire pit.

[Catrike Ryder]

Post by Jeff Liebermann
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 22:00:21 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Primitive man was a pyromaniac. Whenever the necessary combustibles
and appropriate weather were available, primitive man would start and
tend a fire. Most sources claim that the fire was mostly to keep man
warm during various ice ages. However, I believe the man was
hypnotized by the flickering flame.
At some point in the distance past, man set fire to his dinner and
thus invented cooking.

I read an interesting article claiming that fire may have been critical
to evolution of humans. The claim was that cooking makes food much
easier to digest, and thus extract nutritional calories.
Since our large brains consume an outsized portion of our calories, that
cooking over fire was necessary to the evolution of large brains.
Without cooking, the theory goes, large brained proto-humans would have
starved.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC124895/
"In the average adult human, the brain represents about 2% of the body
weight. Remarkably, despite its relatively small size, the brain
accounts for about 20% of the oxygen and, hence, calories consumed by
the body."

I don't think it's 20% oxygen (by weight) but rather is 20% sugar or
"Sugar for the brain: the role of glucose in physiological and
pathological brain function"
<https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3900881/>
<https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3900881/pdf/nihms-510105.pdf>
"In humans, the brain accounts for ~2% of the body weight, but it
consumes ~20% of glucose-derived energy making it the main consumer of
glucose (~5.6 mg glucose per 100 g human brain tissue per minute)."
"It has been suggested that action potentials have been rendered
highly efficient through evolution, and thus most of the energy
consumed in the brain is used on synaptic activity"
Also, please note that oxygen, by itself, does NOT contain calories.
"Does oxygen have a calorific value?"
<https://www.quora.com/Does-oxygen-have-a-calorific-value>
"Oxygen itself does not have a calorific value because it is not a
fuel. Calorific value refers to the amount of energy released when a
substance is burned or oxidized. Oxygen is an oxidizing agent that
supports combustion; it reacts with fuels to produce energy, but it
does not contain energy that can be released on its own."
In simpler terms, the amount of energy consumed by the brain is
proportional to the amount of smoke billowing from the ears, which
explains why thinking is best performed around a fire pit.

That's cute, but I believe most of the thinking around fire pits and
similar is likely to be, "I think I'll have another beer."

--
C'est bon
Soloman

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by Jeff Liebermann
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 22:00:21 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Primitive man was a pyromaniac. Whenever the necessary combustibles
and appropriate weather were available, primitive man would start and
tend a fire. Most sources claim that the fire was mostly to keep man
warm during various ice ages. However, I believe the man was
hypnotized by the flickering flame.
At some point in the distance past, man set fire to his dinner and
thus invented cooking.

I read an interesting article claiming that fire may have been critical
to evolution of humans. The claim was that cooking makes food much
easier to digest, and thus extract nutritional calories.
Since our large brains consume an outsized portion of our calories, that
cooking over fire was necessary to the evolution of large brains.
Without cooking, the theory goes, large brained proto-humans would have
starved.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC124895/
"In the average adult human, the brain represents about 2% of the body
weight. Remarkably, despite its relatively small size, the brain
accounts for about 20% of the oxygen and, hence, calories consumed by
the body."

I don't think it's 20% oxygen (by weight) but rather is 20% sugar or
"Sugar for the brain: the role of glucose in physiological and
pathological brain function"
<https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3900881/>
<https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3900881/pdf/nihms-510105.pdf>
"In humans, the brain accounts for ~2% of the body weight, but it
consumes ~20% of glucose-derived energy making it the main consumer of
glucose (~5.6 mg glucose per 100 g human brain tissue per minute)."
"It has been suggested that action potentials have been rendered
highly efficient through evolution, and thus most of the energy
consumed in the brain is used on synaptic activity"
Also, please note that oxygen, by itself, does NOT contain calories.

My assumption was that the oxygen used by an organ is proportional to
the number of calories consumed by that organ. Of course oxygen is
nearly weightless, and of itself does not contain calories. That's 8th
grade stuff.

[Catrike Ryder]

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by John B.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle

Post by zen cycle

Post by Joerg

Post by Joerg
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of
me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.

“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow
what a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson

Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)

lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is
going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"

What is a "Fire Pit"?

<https://www.google.com/search?q=fire%20pit&udm=2>
Primitive man was a pyromaniac. Whenever the necessary combustibles
and appropriate weather were available, primitive man would start and
tend a fire. Most sources claim that the fire was mostly to keep man
warm during various ice ages. However, I believe the man was
hypnotized by the flickering flame.
At some point in the distance past, man set fire to his dinner and
thus invented cooking. Even though gas, electric, microwave and hot
air ovens have long ago replaced the an open fire for cooking, both
cooking and pyromania are still with us today as demonstrated by
rapidly increasing fire pit sales and wildfire statistics.
<https://www.grandviewresearch.com/horizon/outlook/fire-pits-market-size/global>

...and light. Fire allows you to see each other when you sit around a
fire at night.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

[AMuzi]

Post by John B.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle

Post by zen cycle

Post by Joerg

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by Joerg
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of
me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.

“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow
what a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson

Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)

lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is
going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"

What is a "Fire Pit"?

Many variants on this general idea:

Loading Image...

[Jeff Liebermann]

Post by AMuzi
https://magzhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/abb6428a3fd1e79b74f18cf03dc2cc4c-1536x1152.jpg

Some of my neighbors have something they call a "fire pit". It
sometimes functions as a barbeque, but most commonly, it's used as an
unauthorized plant debris burn pile, which avoids an expensive visit
to the county recycling yard:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=slash%20pile&udm=2>
I would probably do the same thing but I have too many overhanging
tree branches, which might burn down the entire neighborhood. So, I
use my small wood chipper or borrow something larger to produce mulch.

[John B.]

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by AMuzi
https://magzhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/abb6428a3fd1e79b74f18cf03dc2cc4c-1536x1152.jpg

Some of my neighbors have something they call a "fire pit". It
sometimes functions as a barbeque, but most commonly, it's used as an
unauthorized plant debris burn pile, which avoids an expensive visit
<https://www.google.com/search?q=slash%20pile&udm=2>
I would probably do the same thing but I have too many overhanging
tree branches, which might burn down the entire neighborhood. So, I
use my small wood chipper or borrow something larger to produce mulch.

trim you trees :-)

[AMuzi]

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by AMuzi
https://magzhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/abb6428a3fd1e79b74f18cf03dc2cc4c-1536x1152.jpg

Some of my neighbors have something they call a "fire pit". It
sometimes functions as a barbeque, but most commonly, it's used as an
unauthorized plant debris burn pile, which avoids an expensive visit
<https://www.google.com/search?q=slash%20pile&udm=2>
I would probably do the same thing but I have too many overhanging
tree branches, which might burn down the entire neighborhood. So, I
use my small wood chipper or borrow something larger to produce mulch.

Fire pit in the news this morning:

https://nypost.com/2025/03/08/us-news/south-carolina-woman-alexandra-bialousow-arrested-for-igniting-massive-wildfire-in-myrtle-beach-area/

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by AMuzi
https://magzhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/abb6428a3fd1e79b74f18cf03dc2cc4c-1536x1152.jpg

Some of my neighbors have something they call a "fire pit". It
sometimes functions as a barbeque, but most commonly, it's used as an
unauthorized plant debris burn pile, which avoids an expensive visit
<https://www.google.com/search?q=slash%20pile&udm=2>
I would probably do the same thing but I have too many overhanging
tree branches, which might burn down the entire neighborhood. So, I
use my small wood chipper or borrow something larger to produce mulch.

After decades of pruning, gardening, etc. we have a massive pile of dead
vegetation at a back corner of the lot. Fortunately, it's mostly hidden
from view.

My father loved his "burn barrel." Many evenings he would relax tending
his debris burning during the evening. I have a 55 gallon drum that
would work perfectly, but the village specifically outlaws burn barrels,
and the neighbor next door works for the fire department.

Maybe a small bribe is in order. I have fixed her bike for her several
times...

[zen cycle]

Post by John B.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle

Post by zen cycle

Post by Joerg

Post by Zen Cycle

Post by Joerg
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of
me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.

“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow
what a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson

Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)

lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is
going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"

What is a "Fire Pit"?

basically, a pit where you have a controlled fire. In our case, it's a ~
6' diameter structure built out of cobblestones on a concrete pad.

[John B.]

On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 12:50:06 -0500, zen cycle

Post by zen cycle

Post by John B.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle

Post by zen cycle

Post by Joerg

Post by Joerg
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of
me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.

“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, “Wow
what a ride!” - Hunter S. Thompson

Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)

lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is
going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"

What is a "Fire Pit"?

basically, a pit where you have a controlled fire. In our case, it's a ~
6' diameter structure built out of cobblestones on a concrete pad.

Ah... similar to the normal cooking device in both Thailand and rural
Japan, except here/there made of what appeared to be a large steel
bucket lined with concrete. In Japan usually fired with charcoal.

[cyclintom]

Post by zen cycle

Post by John B.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle

Post by zen cycle

Post by Joerg

Post by Joerg
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of
me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.

?Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, ?Wow
what a ride!? - Hunter S. Thompson

Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)

lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is
going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"

What is a "Fire Pit"?

basically, a pit where you have a controlled fire. In our case, it's a ~
6' diameter structure built out of cobblestones on a concrete pad.

I know that there is subject drift, but going from how to get disc brakes to bleed properly to how to use fire is just too stupid for words. Everyone uses BBQ's and not a hole in the ground where a fire is burning!

[AMuzi]

Post by cyclintom

Post by zen cycle

Post by John B.
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 06:18:22 -0500, zen cycle

Post by zen cycle

Post by Joerg

Post by Joerg
Both front and back should have the same lever pull, assuming similar
pad and rotor wear. If you got a lot of air out the question is, how
did that much get in there in the first place? That doesn't sound
healthy.
In a well-designed brake system air tends to bubble up towards the
handles. Maybe ride around a little, get the brakes good and warm,
and bleed again. I always vent at the top when bleeding my MTB
brakes. Only very little air comes out, if any. The brakes always
feel firm but I do it as a preventative maintenance to prevent a
surpsise brake fade. I have seen that happen with a rider in front of
me on a long downhill. His front faded but since he was a good dirt
bike rider he saved the situation with a nice sideways slide,
stopping in a massive plume of dust. And some expletives.

?Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, ?Wow
what a ride!? - Hunter S. Thompson

Last words of a redneck: "Hold my beer and y'all watch me now!" :-)

lol...that's a running joke between me and my wife whenever one of us is
going to try something potentially risky (usually stoking the fire pit).
"be careful honey"
"hold my beer, I got this"

What is a "Fire Pit"?

basically, a pit where you have a controlled fire. In our case, it's a ~
6' diameter structure built out of cobblestones on a concrete pad.

I know that there is subject drift, but going from how to get disc brakes to bleed properly to how to use fire is just too stupid for words. Everyone uses BBQ's and not a hole in the ground where a fire is burning!

Well, apartment denizens often use little hibachis on the
balcony, and urban homeowners frequently have pressed steel
charcoal grills but where space is more plentiful so are
stone bordered pits.

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by cyclintom
I know that there is subject drift, but going from how to get disc
brakes to bleed properly to how to use fire is just too stupid for
words. Everyone uses BBQ's and not a hole in the ground where a fire
is burning!

Well, apartment denizens often use little hibachis on the balcony, and
urban homeowners frequently have pressed steel charcoal grills but where
space is more plentiful so are stone bordered pits.

The backyard two houses to the south has that, in the middle of the
large backyard. So does the family next door to the north, in the far
corner of their yard.

[Jeff Liebermann]

Post by cyclintom
I know that there is subject drift, but going from how to get disc brakes to bleed properly to how to use fire is just too stupid for words. Everyone uses BBQ's and not a hole in the ground where a fire is burning!

Part of my Coleman stove collection:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/f5H35jPkF8ytisz6A>
I couldn't find a photo of my three burner stoves.

Some people collect bicycles. I repair Coleman lanterns, stoves,
heaters, etc. I don't use all of them, but when the utility power
dies for an extended period, it's nice to have some light, tea, and a
hot breakfast. I don't own a barbeque but occasionally use the
neighbors brick fire pit for parties.

[AMuzi]

Post by cyclintom
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

Shimano says yes, compatible. See page C-499 here:

https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf

[cyclintom]

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf

That's a little hard to understand but it appears that all of the actuators are the same compatibilitywise.

[Roger Merriman]

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these
are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump"
the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with
almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf

That's a little hard to understand but it appears that all of the
actuators are the same compatibilitywise.

Correct.

Roger Merriman

[AMuzi]

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf

That's a little hard to understand but it appears that all of the actuators are the same compatibilitywise.

They are not.

Changing a flat bar Deore disc bike to road levers means new
calipers, for example.

[cyclintom]

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf

That's a little hard to understand but it appears that all of the actuators are the same compatibilitywise.

They are not.
Changing a flat bar Deore disc bike to road levers means new
calipers, for example.

It showed that the GRX gravel 10 speed was compatible with the Ultegra 11 speed actuator.Should I have looked deeper?

[AMuzi]

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not "pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf

That's a little hard to understand but it appears that all of the actuators are the same compatibilitywise.

They are not.
Changing a flat bar Deore disc bike to road levers means new
calipers, for example.

It showed that the GRX gravel 10 speed was compatible with the Ultegra 11 speed actuator.Should I have looked deeper?

Right, that's what you asked and Shimano says 'compatible'.

Then Mr Merriman suggested, "all of the actuators are the
same compatibilitywise." That's not true. The road models
as a group differ from the flat bar models as a group.

[Roger Merriman]

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom
Andrew, I have GRX levers and Ultegra actuators. It acts as if
these are not compatible. The levers on both front and rear will not
"pump" the brake pades close enough to the discs so that they
actuate with almost no pull. Instead they pull almost all of the way to the bar.
The pads are hardly worn and there are no leaks from the connections.

https://productinfo.shimano.com/pdfs/product/archive/2023-2024_Compatibility_v030_en.pdf

That's a little hard to understand but it appears that all of the
actuators are the same compatibilitywise.

They are not.
Changing a flat bar Deore disc bike to road levers means new
calipers, for example.

It showed that the GRX gravel 10 speed was compatible with the Ultegra
11 speed actuator.Should I have looked deeper?

Right, that's what you asked and Shimano says 'compatible'.
Then Mr Merriman suggested, "all of the actuators are the
same compatibilitywise." That's not true. The road models
as a group differ from the flat bar models as a group.

Deore is a MTB not road groupset might get used on Hybrids/flat bar road
bikes or flat bar Gravel bikes aka Hybrids but it’s still a MTB groupset
and yes not compatible, With road groupsets, I believe some of the
callipers gaining features such as wider gap so disks are quieter etc.

which is definitely annoying my my case as my Gravel bike and MTB have very
similar calipers and thus pads which are slightly different!

Though 10 speed cassettes etc are compatible I have same cassettes on the
Gravel/MTB with a 11-36 10 speed Deore.

Roger Merriman