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blood pressure
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Catrike Rider
2025-01-06 09:12:38 UTC
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My last bike ride was Christmas Eve. I haven't ridden since then due
to health concerns. I reported last week that although my wife was
very ill with the flue, I had escaped it, which may have not been the
case. Although my temperature remained near normal, I did have other
issues, the most serious was a dramatic increase in my blood pressure.
My normal systolic pressure is under 120 and for several days last
week it was above 130, one morning it was 139.

First thing this morning is was back down to 121/77, and now after
breakfast it's 114/59.
John B.
2025-01-06 09:37:28 UTC
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On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 04:12:38 -0500, Catrike Rider
Post by Catrike Rider
My last bike ride was Christmas Eve. I haven't ridden since then due
to health concerns. I reported last week that although my wife was
very ill with the flue, I had escaped it, which may have not been the
case. Although my temperature remained near normal, I did have other
issues, the most serious was a dramatic increase in my blood pressure.
My normal systolic pressure is under 120 and for several days last
week it was above 130, one morning it was 139.
First thing this morning is was back down to 121/77, and now after
breakfast it's 114/59.
Average BP for "Old Men" is in the range of:

60+ years Woman -139/68 mm Hg ,Man - 133/69 mm Hg
https://www.hri.org.au/health/learn/risk-factors/what-is-normal-blood-pressure-by-age
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Cheers,

John B.
Catrike Rider
2025-01-06 10:18:50 UTC
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Post by John B.
On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 04:12:38 -0500, Catrike Rider
Post by Catrike Rider
My last bike ride was Christmas Eve. I haven't ridden since then due
to health concerns. I reported last week that although my wife was
very ill with the flue, I had escaped it, which may have not been the
case. Although my temperature remained near normal, I did have other
issues, the most serious was a dramatic increase in my blood pressure.
My normal systolic pressure is under 120 and for several days last
week it was above 130, one morning it was 139.
First thing this morning is was back down to 121/77, and now after
breakfast it's 114/59.
60+ years Woman -139/68 mm Hg ,Man - 133/69 mm Hg
https://www.hri.org.au/health/learn/risk-factors/what-is-normal-blood-pressure-by-age
In spite of having assorted health issues and physical infirmities, my
heart is unusually strong for an 80 year old geyser. Low BP and low
pulse rate. My heart rate right now sitting in my lazy-boy with a
laptop on my lap is 42 BPM, according to my Garmin watch. It often
drops down to the mid 30s while I sleep and I can put myself into
extreme relaxation and drop it into the 30s at will.

My wifes BP is even lower than mine, although her pulse rate is
normal. We both suffer from stand_up_too_fast_ and_and_get_ dizzy. I
have scars from doing that while out riding the Catrike.
cyclintom
2025-01-09 20:02:21 UTC
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Post by John B.
On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 04:12:38 -0500, Catrike Rider
Post by Catrike Rider
My last bike ride was Christmas Eve. I haven't ridden since then due
to health concerns. I reported last week that although my wife was
very ill with the flue, I had escaped it, which may have not been the
case. Although my temperature remained near normal, I did have other
issues, the most serious was a dramatic increase in my blood pressure.
My normal systolic pressure is under 120 and for several days last
week it was above 130, one morning it was 139.
First thing this morning is was back down to 121/77, and now after
breakfast it's 114/59.
60+ years Woman -139/68 mm Hg ,Man - 133/69 mm Hg
https://www.hri.org.au/health/learn/risk-factors/what-is-normal-blood-pressure-by-age
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Cheers,
Remember that is only an average blood pressure.
John B.
2025-01-10 01:02:42 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
Post by John B.
On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 04:12:38 -0500, Catrike Rider
Post by Catrike Rider
My last bike ride was Christmas Eve. I haven't ridden since then due
to health concerns. I reported last week that although my wife was
very ill with the flue, I had escaped it, which may have not been the
case. Although my temperature remained near normal, I did have other
issues, the most serious was a dramatic increase in my blood pressure.
My normal systolic pressure is under 120 and for several days last
week it was above 130, one morning it was 139.
First thing this morning is was back down to 121/77, and now after
breakfast it's 114/59.
60+ years Woman -139/68 mm Hg ,Man - 133/69 mm Hg
https://www.hri.org.au/health/learn/risk-factors/what-is-normal-blood-pressure-by-age
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Cheers,
Remember that is only an average blood pressure.
That was the point - the average "normal" pressures for different
ages.

It might also be remembered that "low" BP is also not good... see

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/low-blood-pressure/symptoms-causes/syc-20355465
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Cheers,

John B.
Shadow
2025-01-10 12:47:54 UTC
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Post by John B.
Post by cyclintom
Post by John B.
On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 04:12:38 -0500, Catrike Rider
Post by Catrike Rider
My last bike ride was Christmas Eve. I haven't ridden since then due
to health concerns. I reported last week that although my wife was
very ill with the flue, I had escaped it, which may have not been the
case. Although my temperature remained near normal, I did have other
issues, the most serious was a dramatic increase in my blood pressure.
My normal systolic pressure is under 120 and for several days last
week it was above 130, one morning it was 139.
First thing this morning is was back down to 121/77, and now after
breakfast it's 114/59.
60+ years Woman -139/68 mm Hg ,Man - 133/69 mm Hg
https://www.hri.org.au/health/learn/risk-factors/what-is-normal-blood-pressure-by-age
--
Cheers,
Remember that is only an average blood pressure.
That was the point - the average "normal" pressures for different
ages.
It might also be remembered that "low" BP is also not good... see
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/low-blood-pressure/symptoms-causes/syc-20355465
Optimal blood pressure is when it does not significantly
increase cardiovascular risk (heart attacks and strokes).
That would be <140 over <90 for middle age and over.
Any other values are big-pharma crap.

My grandparents lived to their 90's (one had her 103
birthday). Their average blood pressure was in the region of 130/90.
3 of them died due to complications from LOWERING their blood
pressure far too much. New WHO "blood pressure guide". 18 of the 19
"experts" admitted to funding by big pharma.....
Also, the best treatment for high blood pressure is losing
weight, cutting out salt, doing exercise and if necessary diuretics -
chlortalidone, not hydrochlorothiazide(the latter has a short half
life, the former does not matter if you miss a dose due to long half
life, the elderly tend to forget).
Only if that does not work should you start thinking about
other drugs.
Cue #FAKE_NEWS_GUY to tell me that proves vaccines are bad...
LOL.
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Jeff Liebermann
2025-01-11 19:26:20 UTC
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Post by Shadow
Optimal blood pressure is when it does not significantly
increase cardiovascular risk (heart attacks and strokes).
That would be <140 over <90 for middle age and over.
Any other values are big-pharma crap.
My grandparents lived to their 90's (one had her 103
birthday). Their average blood pressure was in the region of 130/90.
3 of them died due to complications from LOWERING their blood
pressure far too much. New WHO "blood pressure guide". 18 of the 19
"experts" admitted to funding by big pharma.....
For your amusement only.

My body mechanic wants me to do a BP test every evening exactly 1 hr
after I take my BP meds to see if they're still effective:
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The black and blue lines are the actual data from a cheap Omron
BP-7100 BP monitor. Notice how erratic the numbers appear. To make
some sense of the erratic numbers, I add the red lines, which are the
average of the previous 7 days measurements. That makes the results
look somewhat less erratic. Using the average numbers, I'm considered
borderline acceptable. Previous attempts to lower the systolic
numbers resulted in also lowering the diastolic to unacceptably low
numbers. So, what you see is the best I can do. I've tried other BP
monitor which produced similar erratic results.

The graph also demonstrates that a single BP measurement isn't really
adequate for determining whether there are any "high blood pressure"
issues.
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Catrike Ryder
2025-01-11 19:56:16 UTC
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Post by Jeff Liebermann
Post by Shadow
Optimal blood pressure is when it does not significantly
increase cardiovascular risk (heart attacks and strokes).
That would be <140 over <90 for middle age and over.
Any other values are big-pharma crap.
My grandparents lived to their 90's (one had her 103
birthday). Their average blood pressure was in the region of 130/90.
3 of them died due to complications from LOWERING their blood
pressure far too much. New WHO "blood pressure guide". 18 of the 19
"experts" admitted to funding by big pharma.....
For your amusement only.
My body mechanic wants me to do a BP test every evening exactly 1 hr
<https://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/BP-2025-11-01.jpg>
The black and blue lines are the actual data from a cheap Omron
BP-7100 BP monitor. Notice how erratic the numbers appear. To make
some sense of the erratic numbers, I add the red lines, which are the
average of the previous 7 days measurements. That makes the results
look somewhat less erratic. Using the average numbers, I'm considered
borderline acceptable. Previous attempts to lower the systolic
numbers resulted in also lowering the diastolic to unacceptably low
numbers. So, what you see is the best I can do. I've tried other BP
monitor which produced similar erratic results.
The graph also demonstrates that a single BP measurement isn't really
adequate for determining whether there are any "high blood pressure"
issues.
My BP also varies quite a bit. I try to take it about the same time
every day while I'm sitting in the same position. Simply crossing my
legs can make a big difference. Standing up really throws it off.

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Shadow
2025-01-11 21:33:14 UTC
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Post by Jeff Liebermann
Post by Shadow
Optimal blood pressure is when it does not significantly
increase cardiovascular risk (heart attacks and strokes).
That would be <140 over <90 for middle age and over.
Any other values are big-pharma crap.
My grandparents lived to their 90's (one had her 103
birthday). Their average blood pressure was in the region of 130/90.
3 of them died due to complications from LOWERING their blood
pressure far too much. New WHO "blood pressure guide". 18 of the 19
"experts" admitted to funding by big pharma.....
For your amusement only.
My body mechanic wants me to do a BP test every evening exactly 1 hr
<https://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/BP-2025-11-01.jpg>
The black and blue lines are the actual data from a cheap Omron
BP-7100 BP monitor. Notice how erratic the numbers appear. To make
some sense of the erratic numbers, I add the red lines, which are the
average of the previous 7 days measurements. That makes the results
look somewhat less erratic. Using the average numbers, I'm considered
borderline acceptable. Previous attempts to lower the systolic
numbers resulted in also lowering the diastolic to unacceptably low
numbers. So, what you see is the best I can do. I've tried other BP
monitor which produced similar erratic results.
The graph also demonstrates that a single BP measurement isn't really
adequate for determining whether there are any "high blood pressure"
issues.
Your systolic is a tad high but your diastolic is fine. I also
only do averages. Morning and night.
A Libreoffice spreadsheet with averages for last 30 days,
30-60 days and > 60 days.
I'm told you are "supposed" to have a blood pressure of
120/70. That would be fine for a child. Not for elderly people with
hardened arteries.
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cyclintom
2025-01-11 21:03:01 UTC
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Post by John B.
Post by cyclintom
Post by John B.
On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 04:12:38 -0500, Catrike Rider
Post by Catrike Rider
My last bike ride was Christmas Eve. I haven't ridden since then due
to health concerns. I reported last week that although my wife was
very ill with the flue, I had escaped it, which may have not been the
case. Although my temperature remained near normal, I did have other
issues, the most serious was a dramatic increase in my blood pressure.
My normal systolic pressure is under 120 and for several days last
week it was above 130, one morning it was 139.
First thing this morning is was back down to 121/77, and now after
breakfast it's 114/59.
60+ years Woman -139/68 mm Hg ,Man - 133/69 mm Hg
https://www.hri.org.au/health/learn/risk-factors/what-is-normal-blood-pressure-by-age
--
Cheers,
Remember that is only an average blood pressure.
That was the point - the average "normal" pressures for different
ages.
It might also be remembered that "low" BP is also not good... see
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/low-blood-pressure/symptoms-causes/syc-20355465
Because I ride so much, my blood pressure is nearly age 35 normal max. But the last time I topped Palomares I did notice my vision clouding a bit. I didn't like that.
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