Inside for awhile

[Mark J cleary]

Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer than my north
neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride anywhere. Hell it is too cold
to go anywhere too unless emergency. I see Minot ND is going to -55
windchill tomorrow night.

Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike that you can
ride and stay warm in that environment? They keep going for fast a light
and want warm and usable daily.

Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and keeps the now
enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some wires leading to the feet for
heat. A glove that plugs into the hub to keep the hands warm.

Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by Mark J cleary
Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer than my north
neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride anywhere. Hell it is too cold
to go anywhere too unless emergency. I see Minot ND is going to -55
windchill tomorrow night.
Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike that you can
ride and stay warm in that environment? They keep going for fast a light
and want warm and usable daily.
Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and keeps the now
enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some wires leading to the feet for
heat. A glove that plugs into the hub to keep the hands warm.
Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

Let's see: A bike to stay warm below zero? The first step is, as you
say, an enclosed cockpit. I don't have any experience riding such a
thing, but I wonder if that plus warm clothing might be all you need.
For a while, many decades ago, I had a Zzipper fairing on my bike when
commuting in cold weather, and it seemed to help. And IIRC, the fully
enclosed and streamlined bikes used for speed record attempts have some
problem with riders overheating.

Human muscles, metabolism etc. are only about 25% efficient at producing
power. That means for every 100 Watts you output in pedaling, you're
delivering 300 Watts heating to your body. If you're inside an enclosed
fairing and you use enough insulated clothing to keep that heat from
being lost, I think you'd be fine. I'm including feet and hands, which
would not have the wind chill if they were inside a fairing enclosure.

But I can envision other problems. When it's intensely cold, seeing
where you're going through a windshield could be a challenge. Enclosing
an upright bicyclist would probably lead to big problems from crosswinds
due to the huge lateral area, and you'd have some problem with that even
if you reduced lateral area with a recumbent posture. So to prevent wind
toppling you, you might need a trike instead of a bike. That leads to
further complications, like finding three clear paths instead of one
through snow, ice or whatever.

Sorry, I can think of no practical way to ride very far when it's very
cold. My record was -4 Fahrenheit, but it was just a brief and
uncomfortable utility ride. I don't plan on trying it again.

[Roger Merriman]

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Mark J cleary
Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer than my north
neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride anywhere. Hell it is too cold
to go anywhere too unless emergency. I see Minot ND is going to -55
windchill tomorrow night.
Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike that you can
ride and stay warm in that environment? They keep going for fast a light
and want warm and usable daily.
Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and keeps the now
enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some wires leading to the feet for
heat. A glove that plugs into the hub to keep the hands warm.
Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

Let's see: A bike to stay warm below zero? The first step is, as you
say, an enclosed cockpit. I don't have any experience riding such a
thing, but I wonder if that plus warm clothing might be all you need.
For a while, many decades ago, I had a Zzipper fairing on my bike when
commuting in cold weather, and it seemed to help. And IIRC, the fully
enclosed and streamlined bikes used for speed record attempts have some
problem with riders overheating.
Human muscles, metabolism etc. are only about 25% efficient at producing
power. That means for every 100 Watts you output in pedaling, you're
delivering 300 Watts heating to your body. If you're inside an enclosed
fairing and you use enough insulated clothing to keep that heat from
being lost, I think you'd be fine. I'm including feet and hands, which
would not have the wind chill if they were inside a fairing enclosure.
But I can envision other problems. When it's intensely cold, seeing
where you're going through a windshield could be a challenge. Enclosing
an upright bicyclist would probably lead to big problems from crosswinds
due to the huge lateral area, and you'd have some problem with that even
if you reduced lateral area with a recumbent posture. So to prevent wind
toppling you, you might need a trike instead of a bike. That leads to
further complications, like finding three clear paths instead of one
through snow, ice or whatever.
Sorry, I can think of no practical way to ride very far when it's very
cold. My record was -4 Fahrenheit, but it was just a brief and
uncomfortable utility ride. I don't plan on trying it again.

I don’t think a road ride at such temperatures would be particularly
pleasant with added windchill etc.

In my experience off road removes a lot of that, as you tend to be riding
slower, plus riding in the woods can get shelter from the wind.

Clothing helps a lot, as does being young! Noting that despite being sub
zero temperatures last week the young lasses still had their crop tops on!
Which was slightly painful to view in such temperatures!

I’ve certainly ridden and comfortably in similar temperatures though not
necessarily same type of conditions on the MTB.

Ie larger more bulky warm clothes plus extra load ie effort of riding off
road potentially snow etc.

But utility and certainly road cycling is going to be unpleasant!

Roger Merriman

[Catrike Ryder]

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Mark J cleary
Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer than my north
neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride anywhere. Hell it is too cold
to go anywhere too unless emergency. I see Minot ND is going to -55
windchill tomorrow night.
Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike that you can
ride and stay warm in that environment? They keep going for fast a light
and want warm and usable daily.
Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and keeps the now
enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some wires leading to the feet for
heat. A glove that plugs into the hub to keep the hands warm.
Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

Let's see: A bike to stay warm below zero? The first step is, as you
say, an enclosed cockpit. I don't have any experience riding such a
thing, but I wonder if that plus warm clothing might be all you need.
For a while, many decades ago, I had a Zzipper fairing on my bike when
commuting in cold weather, and it seemed to help. And IIRC, the fully
enclosed and streamlined bikes used for speed record attempts have some
problem with riders overheating.
Human muscles, metabolism etc. are only about 25% efficient at producing
power. That means for every 100 Watts you output in pedaling, you're
delivering 300 Watts heating to your body. If you're inside an enclosed
fairing and you use enough insulated clothing to keep that heat from
being lost, I think you'd be fine. I'm including feet and hands, which
would not have the wind chill if they were inside a fairing enclosure.
But I can envision other problems. When it's intensely cold, seeing
where you're going through a windshield could be a challenge. Enclosing
an upright bicyclist would probably lead to big problems from crosswinds
due to the huge lateral area, and you'd have some problem with that even
if you reduced lateral area with a recumbent posture. So to prevent wind
toppling you, you might need a trike instead of a bike. That leads to
further complications, like finding three clear paths instead of one
through snow, ice or whatever.
Sorry, I can think of no practical way to ride very far when it's very
cold. My record was -4 Fahrenheit, but it was just a brief and
uncomfortable utility ride. I don't plan on trying it again.

I don’t think a road ride at such temperatures would be particularly
pleasant with added windchill etc.
In my experience off road removes a lot of that, as you tend to be riding
slower, plus riding in the woods can get shelter from the wind.
Clothing helps a lot, as does being young! Noting that despite being sub
zero temperatures last week the young lasses still had their crop tops on!
Which was slightly painful to view in such temperatures!
I’ve certainly ridden and comfortably in similar temperatures though not
necessarily same type of conditions on the MTB.
Ie larger more bulky warm clothes plus extra load ie effort of riding off
road potentially snow etc.
But utility and certainly road cycling is going to be unpleasant!
Roger Merriman

I had an office for a while in downtown Madison, Wisconsin near the
Capital. This was in the era of miniskirts. We used to go out for
lunch and we'd see the young girls on the street, all bundled up with
fluffy jackets on top, bare legged below. My friend used to say,
"those gals aren't cold, they got a little heater under those skirts.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

[AMuzi]

Post by Catrike Ryder

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Mark J cleary
Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer than my north
neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride anywhere. Hell it is too cold
to go anywhere too unless emergency. I see Minot ND is going to -55
windchill tomorrow night.
Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike that you can
ride and stay warm in that environment? They keep going for fast a light
and want warm and usable daily.
Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and keeps the now
enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some wires leading to the feet for
heat. A glove that plugs into the hub to keep the hands warm.
Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

Let's see: A bike to stay warm below zero? The first step is, as you
say, an enclosed cockpit. I don't have any experience riding such a
thing, but I wonder if that plus warm clothing might be all you need.
For a while, many decades ago, I had a Zzipper fairing on my bike when
commuting in cold weather, and it seemed to help. And IIRC, the fully
enclosed and streamlined bikes used for speed record attempts have some
problem with riders overheating.
Human muscles, metabolism etc. are only about 25% efficient at producing
power. That means for every 100 Watts you output in pedaling, you're
delivering 300 Watts heating to your body. If you're inside an enclosed
fairing and you use enough insulated clothing to keep that heat from
being lost, I think you'd be fine. I'm including feet and hands, which
would not have the wind chill if they were inside a fairing enclosure.
But I can envision other problems. When it's intensely cold, seeing
where you're going through a windshield could be a challenge. Enclosing
an upright bicyclist would probably lead to big problems from crosswinds
due to the huge lateral area, and you'd have some problem with that even
if you reduced lateral area with a recumbent posture. So to prevent wind
toppling you, you might need a trike instead of a bike. That leads to
further complications, like finding three clear paths instead of one
through snow, ice or whatever.
Sorry, I can think of no practical way to ride very far when it's very
cold. My record was -4 Fahrenheit, but it was just a brief and
uncomfortable utility ride. I don't plan on trying it again.

I don’t think a road ride at such temperatures would be particularly
pleasant with added windchill etc.
In my experience off road removes a lot of that, as you tend to be riding
slower, plus riding in the woods can get shelter from the wind.
Clothing helps a lot, as does being young! Noting that despite being sub
zero temperatures last week the young lasses still had their crop tops on!
Which was slightly painful to view in such temperatures!
I’ve certainly ridden and comfortably in similar temperatures though not
necessarily same type of conditions on the MTB.
Ie larger more bulky warm clothes plus extra load ie effort of riding off
road potentially snow etc.
But utility and certainly road cycling is going to be unpleasant!
Roger Merriman

I had an office for a while in downtown Madison, Wisconsin near the
Capital. This was in the era of miniskirts. We used to go out for
lunch and we'd see the young girls on the street, all bundled up with
fluffy jackets on top, bare legged below. My friend used to say,
"those gals aren't cold, they got a little heater under those skirts.
--
C'est bon
Soloman

+1
At our location downtown, in the 'no autos' zone, there were
many days when most people were well wrapped in many layers
but always at least one person per day walking out of the
liquor store with a six pack in shorts.

[Roger Merriman]

Post by AMuzi

Post by Catrike Ryder

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Mark J cleary
Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer than my north
neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride anywhere. Hell it is too cold
to go anywhere too unless emergency. I see Minot ND is going to -55
windchill tomorrow night.
Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike that you can
ride and stay warm in that environment? They keep going for fast a light
and want warm and usable daily.
Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and keeps the now
enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some wires leading to the feet for
heat. A glove that plugs into the hub to keep the hands warm.
Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

Let's see: A bike to stay warm below zero? The first step is, as you
say, an enclosed cockpit. I don't have any experience riding such a
thing, but I wonder if that plus warm clothing might be all you need.
For a while, many decades ago, I had a Zzipper fairing on my bike when
commuting in cold weather, and it seemed to help. And IIRC, the fully
enclosed and streamlined bikes used for speed record attempts have some
problem with riders overheating.
Human muscles, metabolism etc. are only about 25% efficient at producing
power. That means for every 100 Watts you output in pedaling, you're
delivering 300 Watts heating to your body. If you're inside an enclosed
fairing and you use enough insulated clothing to keep that heat from
being lost, I think you'd be fine. I'm including feet and hands, which
would not have the wind chill if they were inside a fairing enclosure.
But I can envision other problems. When it's intensely cold, seeing
where you're going through a windshield could be a challenge. Enclosing
an upright bicyclist would probably lead to big problems from crosswinds
due to the huge lateral area, and you'd have some problem with that even
if you reduced lateral area with a recumbent posture. So to prevent wind
toppling you, you might need a trike instead of a bike. That leads to
further complications, like finding three clear paths instead of one
through snow, ice or whatever.
Sorry, I can think of no practical way to ride very far when it's very
cold. My record was -4 Fahrenheit, but it was just a brief and
uncomfortable utility ride. I don't plan on trying it again.

I don’t think a road ride at such temperatures would be particularly
pleasant with added windchill etc.
In my experience off road removes a lot of that, as you tend to be riding
slower, plus riding in the woods can get shelter from the wind.
Clothing helps a lot, as does being young! Noting that despite being sub
zero temperatures last week the young lasses still had their crop tops on!
Which was slightly painful to view in such temperatures!
I’ve certainly ridden and comfortably in similar temperatures though not
necessarily same type of conditions on the MTB.
Ie larger more bulky warm clothes plus extra load ie effort of riding off
road potentially snow etc.
But utility and certainly road cycling is going to be unpleasant!
Roger Merriman

I had an office for a while in downtown Madison, Wisconsin near the
Capital. This was in the era of miniskirts. We used to go out for
lunch and we'd see the young girls on the street, all bundled up with
fluffy jackets on top, bare legged below. My friend used to say,
"those gals aren't cold, they got a little heater under those skirts.
--
C'est bon
Soloman

+1
At our location downtown, in the 'no autos' zone, there were
many days when most people were well wrapped in many layers
but always at least one person per day walking out of the
liquor store with a six pack in shorts.

Not just age but health as well, I felt the cold during the first year post
my brain injury where well I wasn’t terribly well, and was cold a lot of
the time, my wife used to go outside in vest tops to cool down in the
winter after I’d be discharged into her care, and the house was cranked up
to hospital types of temperatures but even my wife who loved the heat,
found it too much occasionally!

I’m back to normal for Roger, ie don’t need gloves unless it’s sub zero as
I’m happy with cold temperatures, unless I’ve overdone it and fatigue has
set it at which point I’ll feel cold.

Roger Merriman

[AMuzi]

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Mark J cleary
Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer
than my north neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride
anywhere. Hell it is too cold to go anywhere too unless
emergency. I see Minot ND is going to -55 windchill
tomorrow night.
Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike
that you can ride and stay warm in that environment? They
keep going for fast a light and want warm and usable daily.
Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and
keeps the now enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some
wires leading to the feet for heat. A glove that plugs
into the hub to keep the hands warm.
Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

Let's see: A bike to stay warm below zero? The first step
is, as you say, an enclosed cockpit. I don't have any
experience riding such a thing, but I wonder if that plus
warm clothing might be all you need. For a while, many
decades ago, I had a Zzipper fairing on my bike when
commuting in cold weather, and it seemed to help. And IIRC,
the fully enclosed and streamlined bikes used for speed
record attempts have some problem with riders overheating.
Human muscles, metabolism etc. are only about 25% efficient
at producing power. That means for every 100 Watts you
output in pedaling, you're delivering 300 Watts heating to
your body. If you're inside an enclosed fairing and you use
enough insulated clothing to keep that heat from being lost,
I think you'd be fine. I'm including feet and hands, which
would not have the wind chill if they were inside a fairing
enclosure.
But I can envision other problems. When it's intensely cold,
seeing where you're going through a windshield could be a
challenge. Enclosing an upright bicyclist would probably
lead to big problems from crosswinds due to the huge lateral
area, and you'd have some problem with that even if you
reduced lateral area with a recumbent posture. So to prevent
wind toppling you, you might need a trike instead of a bike.
That leads to further complications, like finding three
clear paths instead of one through snow, ice or whatever.
Sorry, I can think of no practical way to ride very far when
it's very cold. My record was -4 Fahrenheit, but it was just
a brief and uncomfortable utility ride. I don't plan on
trying it again.

One of my former employees spent several years working at
McMurdo. Being a small guy and a very good welder, one of
his wilder assignments was welding a hundred feet up a tower
lashed to a crane in -25F with a wind. One might dress for
that.

Typical 'day at work' photo:
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[AMuzi]

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Mark J cleary
Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer
than my north neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride
anywhere. Hell it is too cold to go anywhere too unless
emergency. I see Minot ND is going to -55 windchill
tomorrow night.
Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike
that you can ride and stay warm in that environment? They
keep going for fast a light and want warm and usable daily.
Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and
keeps the now enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some
wires leading to the feet for heat. A glove that plugs
into the hub to keep the hands warm.
Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

Let's see: A bike to stay warm below zero? The first step
is, as you say, an enclosed cockpit. I don't have any
experience riding such a thing, but I wonder if that plus
warm clothing might be all you need. For a while, many
decades ago, I had a Zzipper fairing on my bike when
commuting in cold weather, and it seemed to help. And IIRC,
the fully enclosed and streamlined bikes used for speed
record attempts have some problem with riders overheating.
Human muscles, metabolism etc. are only about 25% efficient
at producing power. That means for every 100 Watts you
output in pedaling, you're delivering 300 Watts heating to
your body. If you're inside an enclosed fairing and you use
enough insulated clothing to keep that heat from being lost,
I think you'd be fine. I'm including feet and hands, which
would not have the wind chill if they were inside a fairing
enclosure.
But I can envision other problems. When it's intensely cold,
seeing where you're going through a windshield could be a
challenge. Enclosing an upright bicyclist would probably
lead to big problems from crosswinds due to the huge lateral
area, and you'd have some problem with that even if you
reduced lateral area with a recumbent posture. So to prevent
wind toppling you, you might need a trike instead of a bike.
That leads to further complications, like finding three
clear paths instead of one through snow, ice or whatever.
Sorry, I can think of no practical way to ride very far when
it's very cold. My record was -4 Fahrenheit, but it was just
a brief and uncomfortable utility ride. I don't plan on
trying it again.

I commuted as low as -25F more than once. It can be done.

For example, snowmobile suits are used at equal or lower
temperatures than most cycling, with more relative wind
speed, commonly:

https://snowmobiles.org/carhartt-snowmobile-suit/

IMHO fairings or enclosures are not the best approach,
especially where wind is significant. (maybe for tricycles
but not two wheelers).

[cyclintom]

Post by AMuzi

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Mark J cleary
Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer
than my north neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride
anywhere. Hell it is too cold to go anywhere too unless
emergency. I see Minot ND is going to -55 windchill
tomorrow night.
Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike
that you can ride and stay warm in that environment? They
keep going for fast a light and want warm and usable daily.
Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and
keeps the now enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some
wires leading to the feet for heat. A glove that plugs
into the hub to keep the hands warm.
Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

Let's see: A bike to stay warm below zero? The first step
is, as you say, an enclosed cockpit. I don't have any
experience riding such a thing, but I wonder if that plus
warm clothing might be all you need. For a while, many
decades ago, I had a Zzipper fairing on my bike when
commuting in cold weather, and it seemed to help. And IIRC,
the fully enclosed and streamlined bikes used for speed
record attempts have some problem with riders overheating.
Human muscles, metabolism etc. are only about 25% efficient
at producing power. That means for every 100 Watts you
output in pedaling, you're delivering 300 Watts heating to
your body. If you're inside an enclosed fairing and you use
enough insulated clothing to keep that heat from being lost,
I think you'd be fine. I'm including feet and hands, which
would not have the wind chill if they were inside a fairing
enclosure.
But I can envision other problems. When it's intensely cold,
seeing where you're going through a windshield could be a
challenge. Enclosing an upright bicyclist would probably
lead to big problems from crosswinds due to the huge lateral
area, and you'd have some problem with that even if you
reduced lateral area with a recumbent posture. So to prevent
wind toppling you, you might need a trike instead of a bike.
That leads to further complications, like finding three
clear paths instead of one through snow, ice or whatever.
Sorry, I can think of no practical way to ride very far when
it's very cold. My record was -4 Fahrenheit, but it was just
a brief and uncomfortable utility ride. I don't plan on
trying it again.

I commuted as low as -25F more than once. It can be done.
For example, snowmobile suits are used at equal or lower
temperatures than most cycling, with more relative wind
https://snowmobiles.org/carhartt-snowmobile-suit/
IMHO fairings or enclosures are not the best approach,
especially where wind is significant. (maybe for tricycles
but not two wheelers).

Luckily living in California, it never gets so cold that heavy bike cloths don't work along with hard riding.

[Catrike Ryder]

On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 19:41:53 -0600, Mark J cleary

Post by Mark J cleary
Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer than my north
neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride anywhere. Hell it is too cold
to go anywhere too unless emergency. I see Minot ND is going to -55
windchill tomorrow night.
Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike that you can
ride and stay warm in that environment? They keep going for fast a light
and want warm and usable daily.
Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and keeps the now
enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some wires leading to the feet for
heat. A glove that plugs into the hub to keep the hands warm.
Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

An enclosed "cockpit" and heaters are over kill. Perhaps some sort of
a full frontal fairing. You can get insulated clothing that will keep
you warm enough if you don't have any wind to deal with.

My son, who lives up in Wisconsin where I spent most of my life, sent
me a picture of him riding his bike yesterday. Yeah, it's a stationary
bike in his basement. If he needs to go anywhere outside, he takes his
4wd pickup. Both are better solutions than bicycling in the cold.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

[zen cycle]

Post by Mark J cleary
Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer than my north
neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride anywhere. Hell it is too cold
to go anywhere too unless emergency. I see Minot ND is going to -55
windchill tomorrow night.
Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike that you can
ride and stay warm in that environment?

No.


They keep going for fast a light

Post by Mark J cleary
and want warm and usable daily.
Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and keeps the now
enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some wires leading to the feet for
heat. A glove that plugs into the hub to keep the hands warm.
Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

[AMuzi]

Post by Mark J cleary
Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer than
my north neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride
anywhere. Hell it is too cold to go anywhere too unless
emergency. I see Minot ND is going to -55 windchill tomorrow
night.
Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike that
you can ride and stay warm in that environment? They keep
going for fast a light and want warm and usable daily.
Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and
keeps the now enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some
wires leading to the feet for heat. A glove that plugs into
the hub to keep the hands warm.
Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

Daughter rode yesterday (19 January) along the lakefront on
her DaHon single speed:

https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/local/cold-weather-advisory-issued-for-chicago

[Mark J cleary]

Post by Mark J cleary
Well in Central Illinois is now 3 degrees a bit warmer than my north
neighbor Andrew but still too cold to ride anywhere. Hell it is too
cold to go anywhere too unless emergency. I see Minot ND is going to
-55 windchill tomorrow night.
Do you you think the bike manufactures can build a bike that you can
ride and stay warm in that environment? They keep going for fast a
light and want warm and usable daily.
Let see......a generator heater that works off the hub and keeps the
now enclosed cockpit warm. Then you have some wires leading to the
feet for heat. A glove that plugs into the hub to keep the hands warm.
Someone here for sure this is Rec.bicyles.tec after all.

Daughter rode yesterday (19 January) along the lakefront on her DaHon
https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/local/cold-weather-advisory-issued-
for-chicago

On the other end of the spectrum I remember in summer of 1988 was one of
the hottest ever. I ran the Chicago Lung Association 20k race in
downtown Chicago. Started at 8am was 87 degrees and by end of race well
over 90 with high humidity. T Hey were going to call the race due to
heat but decide to go ahead just issue extreme caution.

Well I was 27 years old and in pretty much close to my top running
condition. I ran it in 1:29 a respectable time in the heat had no real
trouble. I remember on the trip home drinking massive amounts of liquid.
The only worse as far as loosing liquid was 100 mile charity bike ride
in 2011. It was July 3oth in the high humidity and heat of central
Illinois. It was not a race but I did it in 5:30 and they pick as many
hills possible for an Illinois ride.

For some reason I think I remember losing about 8 pounds even
considering I must have gone through 5 large bottle of water and one
short stop to get some food to eat at the local Casey;s. I think that
day was your basic ride in the worst heat but if in shape could be done
with no real problems The great thing about a bike is you always have a
windchill factor even in the heat.