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cyclintom
2024-11-17 16:49:28 UTC
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This summer all across the globe has been remarkably colder than normal. My Arizona friends went to Italy to escape the heat which never rose to normal temperatures and they nearly froze in Italy.

Here there was ONE week of high temperatures and it never got into the 100's which is normal for heat waves on the bay. The rest of our summer was cool enough that short sleeve jerseys were only worn by people riding hard.

NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Shadow
2024-11-17 17:34:14 UTC
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NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
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cyclintom
2024-11-17 21:59:34 UTC
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NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
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Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close. So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.

As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service has not found that so. When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into what they are saying.
Shadow
2024-11-18 11:07:11 UTC
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NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
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Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator?
Yes. Not where I live though. I'm in a more "temperate" zone. It used
to be sub-zero most winters. 20 years ago. Now it's just arid.
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It is no longer called "Global Warming"
"Global Warming" studies more recent changes. "Climate Change" studies
historical values. They are complementary, not exclusive. Though the
nomenclature is not rigid.
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since not ONE single prediction even came close. So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
Practically all scientists agree that Global Warming exists, and is a
threat. The heat waves and floods are there to prove it.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming>

Which of those graphs do you need me to explain to you?
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As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected
What a powerful man. He controls the results of every single
meteorological laboratory in the world. He's almost a god....
Does your wife teach Biden in church?
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through election fraud.
Fraud? If fraud is possible, cancel the last elections, do a full
audit(in the meantime put Trump away for all the felonies he
committed) and have new elections.
It's the only way the US will not become a dictatorship.
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zen cycle
2024-11-18 11:13:51 UTC
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As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected
What a powerful man. He controls the results of every single
meteorological laboratory in the world. He's almost a god....
Does your wife teach Biden in church?
HAH!!!

good one.
cyclintom
2024-11-18 17:17:06 UTC
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As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected
What a powerful man. He controls the results of every single
meteorological laboratory in the world. He's almost a god....
Does your wife teach Biden in church?
HAH!!!
good one.
How long have you been divorced? Married men don't go down to microbreweries with "friends" that are only friends because they believe exactly the same as you. Or in your case, you believe exactly the same as they do in order to have some sort of friendship. You must be a very lonely person.
Zen Cycle
2024-11-18 19:14:51 UTC
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As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected
What a powerful man. He controls the results of every single
meteorological laboratory in the world. He's almost a god....
Does your wife teach Biden in church?
HAH!!!
good one.
How long have you been divorced?
I'm not
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Married men don't go down to microbreweries with "friends"
Yes, we do
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that are only friends because they believe exactly the same as you.
hmmm, I guess I'm glad I don't have any friends like that then.
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Or in your case, you believe exactly the same as they do in order to have some sort of friendship.
My friends wouldn't tolerate that any more than I would
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You must be a very lonely person.
I'm happy to announce that when it comes to good friends, my cup runneth
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cyclintom
2024-11-18 19:59:24 UTC
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As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected
What a powerful man. He controls the results of every single
meteorological laboratory in the world. He's almost a god....
Does your wife teach Biden in church?
HAH!!!
good one.
How long have you been divorced?
I'm not
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Married men don't go down to microbreweries with "friends"
Yes, we do
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that are only friends because they believe exactly the same as you.
hmmm, I guess I'm glad I don't have any friends like that then.
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Or in your case, you believe exactly the same as they do in order to have some sort of friendship.
My friends wouldn't tolerate that any more than I would
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You must be a very lonely person.
I'm happy to announce that when it comes to good friends, my cup runneth
over.
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By that I assume you're reffering to your queer "friends". Every posting you made never once mentioned a wife until I said that I inte4rviewed queers and that Alpha queers had exactly the same "Me, Me, Me" speech pattern as you. So suddenly you had a wife. But she was never mentioned again and you continued with your egotistical rant of "ME, ME, ME". The only people that would put up with that are other queers.
Zen Cycle
2024-11-18 20:27:18 UTC
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As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected
What a powerful man. He controls the results of every single
meteorological laboratory in the world. He's almost a god....
Does your wife teach Biden in church?
HAH!!!
good one.
How long have you been divorced?
I'm not
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Married men don't go down to microbreweries with "friends"
Yes, we do
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that are only friends because they believe exactly the same as you.
hmmm, I guess I'm glad I don't have any friends like that then.
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Or in your case, you believe exactly the same as they do in order to have some sort of friendship.
My friends wouldn't tolerate that any more than I would
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You must be a very lonely person.
I'm happy to announce that when it comes to good friends, my cup runneth
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By that I assume you're reffering to your queer "friends".
Two of them are a gay married couple. One of them isn't a beer drinker
so doesn't attend as often as the other. They're good people. There's
another hetero couple where the wife is more of a beer drinker than the
husband, so sometimes she's there without him. I know in your
relationship you generally aren't allowed to leave the house alone
except to go on bike rides, but most of us have more trusting
relationships with our spouses where a night out with friends isn't a
big deal. It's a pity you're in a cuckold relationship where your wife
doesn't trust you out alone. Why is that? is it because she knows you'll
get stupid drunk without her to hold you back, or do you just enjoy
being kept on a leash?
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Every posting you made never once mentioned a wife
Why would I? is there some obscure netiquette rule that states everyone
has to announce their gender orientation upon joining a cycling news group?
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until I said that I inte4rviewed queers and that Alpha queers had exactly the same "Me, Me, Me" speech pattern as you.
You're the most consistent self-aggrandizing poster in this forum. By
your own logic, you're the "queerest" person here.
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So suddenly you had a wife.
Sure tommy. Please post a link to this utterly revealing message. You've
referred to it so often, you should have it at the ready.
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But she was never mentioned again
She wasn't? I'm pretty sure I can pull out dozens of messages where I
referred to her without the context of your paranoid rants about "queers".
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and you continued with your egotistical rant of "ME, ME, ME".
Please repost any message that you think represents an egotistical rant
on my part.
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The only people that would put up with that are other queers.
Tommy, you've never known or met any homosexuals (knowingly). You never
participated in any interviews, a person doing electronics design on
medical electronics has no casue to interview medical subjects, it isn't
relevant to the work. The only things you think you know about
homosexuals are what you've read in your homophobic echo-chamber forums.
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Roger Merriman
2024-11-18 20:49:17 UTC
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As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year
since Biden was elected
What a powerful man. He controls the results of every single
meteorological laboratory in the world. He's almost a god....
Does your wife teach Biden in church?
HAH!!!
good one.
How long have you been divorced?
I'm not
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Married men don't go down to microbreweries with "friends"
Yes, we do
How many Gay men does he think exist certainly insufficient to keep
microbrewery’s going!
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that are only friends because they believe exactly the same as you.
hmmm, I guess I'm glad I don't have any friends like that then.
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Or in your case, you believe exactly the same as they do in order to
have some sort of friendship.
My friends wouldn't tolerate that any more than I would
Post by cyclintom
You must be a very lonely person.
I'm happy to announce that when it comes to good friends, my cup runneth
over.
Roger Merriman
Zen Cycle
2024-11-18 21:17:03 UTC
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As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year
since Biden was elected
What a powerful man. He controls the results of every single
meteorological laboratory in the world. He's almost a god....
Does your wife teach Biden in church?
HAH!!!
good one.
How long have you been divorced?
I'm not
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Married men don't go down to microbreweries with "friends"
Yes, we do
How many Gay men does he think exist certainly insufficient to keep
microbrewery’s going!
I guess it depends on where you live. Certainly not the one we've been
discussing, but I'm sure the ones in Provincetown would be n a world of
hurt if the gay population decided to boycott.
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that are only friends because they believe exactly the same as you.
hmmm, I guess I'm glad I don't have any friends like that then.
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Or in your case, you believe exactly the same as they do in order to
have some sort of friendship.
My friends wouldn't tolerate that any more than I would
Post by cyclintom
You must be a very lonely person.
I'm happy to announce that when it comes to good friends, my cup runneth
over.
Roger Merriman
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2024-11-18 21:45:35 UTC
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As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year
since Biden was elected
What a powerful man. He controls the results of every single
meteorological laboratory in the world. He's almost a god....
Does your wife teach Biden in church?
HAH!!!
good one.
How long have you been divorced?
I'm not
Post by cyclintom
Married men don't go down to microbreweries with "friends"
Yes, we do
How many Gay men does he think exist certainly insufficient to keep
microbrewery’s going!
I guess it depends on where you live. Certainly not the one we've been
discussing, but I'm sure the ones in Provincetown would be n a world of
hurt if the gay population decided to boycott.
Clearly are central and south london bars etc that rely on the gay
community, and Brighton is famous for its gay bars etc, but even there is
only so many, vs the population as whole.
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that are only friends because they believe exactly the same as you.
hmmm, I guess I'm glad I don't have any friends like that then.
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Or in your case, you believe exactly the same as they do in order to
have some sort of friendship.
My friends wouldn't tolerate that any more than I would
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You must be a very lonely person.
I'm happy to announce that when it comes to good friends, my cup runneth
over.
Roger Merriman
Roger Merriman
zen cycle
2024-11-18 11:23:32 UTC
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NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
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Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
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So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service has not found that so. When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into what they are saying.
cyclintom
2024-11-18 16:02:13 UTC
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NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
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Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
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So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service has not found that so. When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into what they are saying.
More high intelligencve from the man who can't even do his job as a QC paperwork wonk. It wasn't real models but predictions based upon PAST climate. I know that you're really stupid and have a very difficult time unserstanding cyclical changes in the climate but the Dust Bowl was a world wide event though most seriously felt in the US because of poor farming practices. The temperatures ON RECORD were far higher than today. Maybe you never heard of the Little Ice Age which ran from the middle 14th century to the mid-19th century? Or maybe you're too fucking stupid to ever have heard of the Irish Potato Famine?

You steal from your employers and your comments are all designed to make yourself look smart when you are so inredibly stupid you make Liebermann look like a genius.
Zen Cycle
2024-11-18 20:07:01 UTC
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More high intelligencve from the man who can't even do his job as a QC paperwork wonk.
Well, since I don't have a QC job, I guess it makes sense that I'm not
doing any QC paperwork.
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It wasn't real models but predictions based upon PAST climate.
um....no
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
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I know that you're really stupid and have a very difficult time unserstanding cyclical changes in the climate
Yeah, I'm sure you can school all of us on the Interdecadal Pacific
Oscillation and Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation. Care to discuss those
in the context of The Bjerknes Feedback and the Walker Circulation?
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but the Dust Bowl was a world wide event
No, the dust bowl was specific to the midwestern US that had effects
globally due to the amount of dust blown into the atmosphere.
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though most seriously felt in the US because of poor farming practices.
Yes tommy, I learned about the Dust Bowl in high school. It was a
combination of drought, heat wave, and poor farming practices. No one is
arguing there haven't been cyclic changes in the climate throughout the
history of the planet.
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The temperatures ON RECORD were far higher than today.
Just about all of those records were broken in the 2012 heatwave, and
the average temperature continues to rise year after year. You do know
the difference between a peak temperature and an average temperature?
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Maybe you never heard of the Little Ice Age which ran from the middle 14th century to the mid-19th century?
yes, tommy, I learned about that in high school as well. Later I learned
how Milankovitch cycles did a pretty good job tracking global climate
change until very recently.
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Or maybe you're too fucking stupid to ever have heard of the Irish Potato Famine?
And you're so fucking stupid that you think it was climate related?
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You steal from your employers and your comments are all designed to make yourself look smart
No, my comments have nothing to do with me. They're designed to reveal
your lies and idiocy. It seems to working rather well.
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when you are so inredibly stupid you make Liebermann look like a genius.
I have a lot of respect for Jeff's intelligence. Yours? notsomuch....
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cyclintom
2024-11-18 21:41:32 UTC
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More high intelligencve from the man who can't even do his job as a QC paperwork wonk.
Well, since I don't have a QC job, I guess it makes sense that I'm not
doing any QC paperwork.
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It wasn't real models but predictions based upon PAST climate.
um....no
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
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I know that you're really stupid and have a very difficult time unserstanding cyclical changes in the climate
Yeah, I'm sure you can school all of us on the Interdecadal Pacific
Oscillation and Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation. Care to discuss those
in the context of The Bjerknes Feedback and the Walker Circulation?
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but the Dust Bowl was a world wide event
No, the dust bowl was specific to the midwestern US that had effects
globally due to the amount of dust blown into the atmosphere.
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though most seriously felt in the US because of poor farming practices.
Yes tommy, I learned about the Dust Bowl in high school. It was a
combination of drought, heat wave, and poor farming practices. No one is
arguing there haven't been cyclic changes in the climate throughout the
history of the planet.
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The temperatures ON RECORD were far higher than today.
Just about all of those records were broken in the 2012 heatwave, and
the average temperature continues to rise year after year. You do know
the difference between a peak temperature and an average temperature?
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Maybe you never heard of the Little Ice Age which ran from the middle 14th century to the mid-19th century?
yes, tommy, I learned about that in high school as well. Later I learned
how Milankovitch cycles did a pretty good job tracking global climate
change until very recently.
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Or maybe you're too fucking stupid to ever have heard of the Irish Potato Famine?
And you're so fucking stupid that you think it was climate related?
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You steal from your employers and your comments are all designed to make yourself look smart
No, my comments have nothing to do with me. They're designed to reveal
your lies and idiocy. It seems to working rather well.
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when you are so inredibly stupid you make Liebermann look like a genius.
I have a lot of respect for Jeff's intelligence. Yours? notsomuch....
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There you go. Years of telling us that you were hired to run the QC department and now you tell us different. Will the lying from you ever stop? You could not read a simple C program that did nothing but blink lights so you sure as hell aren't a design engineer. So, is the company owned by Daddy who doesn't care if you're a blithering idiot like Embarcadero Systems whose member of the board of directors didn't care that his son was incapable of running an assembly line and fired me for promoting someone who could.

What we need is more of your lies. Tell us that the most needy woman would put up with your egotism and lies?

While I was interviewing those queers it came out that Pelosi's husband was a queer. To maintain her political office she requires a husband to escort her to events. Is that your kind of wife? When Paul Pelosi was caught holding hands with another man the media built an entire story to protect her office. This despite photos of him holding hands and the boyfriend threatening the photographer with a hammer. I would say "kiss my ass" but that's what you would like.

So what do you use your worthless degree for? Managing a shipping and receiving dept? All of your money for an education down the drain. Or are you an electronic technician like Liebermann? At least Liebermann faced the fact that he learned nothing in six years. Most BA's are worthless and too large a percentage of B.S.'s are awarded to people that don't have the intelligence to use them. SAT's will not tell uou if you're able to actually do a job because you have to be consciencious and there is no way of measuring that. For instance look at Frank. Look at Flunky spending all of his company time on the Internet! Even if he had gotten a degree which I strongly doubt, he threw it entirely away. Use it or lose it and he has shown you where his brain is at.
Zen Cycle
2024-11-18 22:18:01 UTC
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There you go. Years of telling us that you were hired to run the QC department and now you tell us different.
I have never claimed I was hired to run a QC department. If you think I
did, link to the message that you say makes the claim.
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Will the lying from you ever stop?
It never began.
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You could not read a simple C program that did nothing but blink lights so you sure as hell aren't a design engineer.
No matter how many times you tell that lie, it will never become true.
You're butt hurt because I asked you an architecture question that you
couldn't answer.
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So, is the company owned by Daddy
nope, it's owned by an investment group.
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who doesn't care if you're a blithering idiot like Embarcadero Systems whose member of the board of directors didn't care that his son was incapable of running an assembly line and fired me for promoting someone who could.
yup, another case of tommy being and asshole and getting fired for it.
As we've said before, no one bounces around jobs like that unless
they're getting fired repeatedly.
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What we need is more of your lies. Tell us that the most needy woman would put up with your egotism and lies?
And to this point, you haven't shown anything I've written to be a lie,
let alone wrong, while every silly little claim of yours fall apart
under the tiniest scrutiny.
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While I was interviewing those queers it came out that Pelosi's husband was a queer.
You were allegedly looking at medical subject interviews in the mid
1980's*. Allegations about Paul Pelosi's sexual orientation came out as
a result of the attack in 2022, more evidence that you're lying about
it. Paul pelosi isn't gay, paranoid homophobes like you use the slur to
describe anyone you don't like. No, there is no truth to the allegation
that Paul Pelosi is gay.
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To maintain her political office she requires a husband to escort her to events.
Which is completely untrue
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Is that your kind of wife?
no, that's yours. Your wife won't let you go out to a bar with friends.
You're a pathetic little cuckold whose wife has his balls in a little
jar she keeps in her purse.
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When Paul Pelosi was caught holding hands with another man the media built an entire story to protect her office.
Which is completely untrue
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This despite photos of him holding hands and the boyfriend threatening the photographer with a hammer.
Which never happened.
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I would say "kiss my ass" but that's what you would like.
Go ahead and say it. No matter how much you beg, it's not gonna happen.
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So what do you use your worthless degree for? Managing a shipping and receiving dept?
I've stated my position requirements and job title many times. Try
paying attention.
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All of your money for an education down the drain. Or are you an electronic technician like Liebermann?
lol...it's be pretty hard to support my lifestyle on a technician salary.
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At least Liebermann faced the fact that he learned nothing in six years.
He did? Where did he write that?
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Most BA's are worthless and too large a percentage of B.S.'s are awarded to people that don't have the intelligence to use them. SAT's will not tell uou if you're able to actually do a job because you have to be consciencious and there is no way of measuring that.
attempt at distraction duly noted and dismissed as an attempt at distraction
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For instance look at Frank.
ok, I'm looking at Frank.
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Look at Flunky
Wait, I though you wanted me to look at frank...
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spending all of his company time on the Internet!
I actually do spend the vast amount of my time on the internet. Most of
the applications I'm using are cloud-based, as are the reference
literature and the data sets. in fact, I probably couldn't do my job if
I wasn't on the internet all day.
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Even if he had gotten a degree which I strongly doubt, he threw it entirely away. Use it or lose it and he has shown you where his brain is at.
I credit my education and experience with getting me into a stable
position at a good company that pays well and provides a good life for
my family - something you've never experienced
*You never interviewed any medical subject. It's a stupid, silly lie,
much like the silly stupid lie that you're rich

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/hicB2nXjlr4/m/G2axqs0k_IwJ

***@yahoo.com Aug 9, 2013, 11:11:36?AM
" Trouble is that while I was out of it I sold or gave away almost my
entire bicycle collection. And all of my wardrobe and most of my tools!
And now on Social Security I have to VERY slowly make it up."

We see right through you tommy, you're nothing but a pathetic sad little
joke.
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zen cycle
2024-11-18 11:31:23 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
Post by Shadow
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
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We have a new policy - Google 2012
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Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
temperatures:

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202410/supplemental/page-1

NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
Post by cyclintom
When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into what they are saying.
Said the most paranoid member of this forum...
John B.
2024-11-18 12:23:51 UTC
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 06:31:23 -0500, zen cycle
Post by zen cycle
Post by cyclintom
Post by Shadow
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
Post by cyclintom
When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into what they are saying.
Said the most paranoid member of this forum...
And Arctic and Antarctic ice thickness is decreasing, that glacier
thickness and coverage is decreasing, that ocean water in various
harbors is increasing in dept, that the roads from Miami to Key West
is nearly underwater...
--
Cheers,

John B.
Roger Merriman
2024-11-18 15:42:35 UTC
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Post by John B.
On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 06:31:23 -0500, zen cycle
Post by zen cycle
Post by cyclintom
Post by Shadow
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer
called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least
skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing
global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year
since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced
each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service
has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
Post by cyclintom
When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into
what they are saying.
Said the most paranoid member of this forum...
And Arctic and Antarctic ice thickness is decreasing, that glacier
thickness and coverage is decreasing, that ocean water in various
harbors is increasing in dept, that the roads from Miami to Key West
is nearly underwater...
Even in my lifetime, all sorts of changes, such as the massive reduction in
insects I remember having to clean windscreens due to dead insects etc, or
that flying ant day filled the valley and near as darkened the sun!

Let alone the various heat waves 30-40c which definitely wasn’t a thing,
and likewise snow is relatively rare now at least in southern England. To
the point London has a handful of snow plows, ie if it snows and settles
it’s hugely disruptive.

And likewise my bikes or rather the commute bikes are set up that way, ie
if it’s icy then it’s quite iffy, though as it’s flat snow is fine, it’s
just avoiding the ice. But it’s such a low probability it’s fine without
studded tires.

I do run warm but I don’t bother with gloves in winter now as it’s
generally in positive figures, not experienced-10/20 for quite some time.

Roger Merriman
cyclintom
2024-11-18 16:35:17 UTC
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Post by Roger Merriman
Post by John B.
On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 06:31:23 -0500, zen cycle
Post by zen cycle
Post by cyclintom
Post by Shadow
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer
called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least
skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing
global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year
since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced
each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service
has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
Post by cyclintom
When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into
what they are saying.
Said the most paranoid member of this forum...
And Arctic and Antarctic ice thickness is decreasing, that glacier
thickness and coverage is decreasing, that ocean water in various
harbors is increasing in dept, that the roads from Miami to Key West
is nearly underwater...
Even in my lifetime, all sorts of changes, such as the massive reduction in
insects I remember having to clean windscreens due to dead insects etc, or
that flying ant day filled the valley and near as darkened the sun!
Let alone the various heat waves 30-40c which definitely wasn?t a thing,
and likewise snow is relatively rare now at least in southern England. To
the point London has a handful of snow plows, ie if it snows and settles
it?s hugely disruptive.
And likewise my bikes or rather the commute bikes are set up that way, ie
if it?s icy then it?s quite iffy, though as it?s flat snow is fine, it?s
just avoiding the ice. But it?s such a low probability it?s fine without
studded tires.
I do run warm but I don?t bother with gloves in winter now as it?s
generally in positive figures, not experienced-10/20 for quite some time.
Roger Merriman
Indeed Roger, but insects eat food crops so they spray with powerful insecticides that reduce the problem. Would you rather eat or have flying ants?
Roger Merriman
2024-11-18 17:25:11 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
Post by Roger Merriman
Post by John B.
On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 06:31:23 -0500, zen cycle
Post by zen cycle
Post by cyclintom
Post by Shadow
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer
called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least
skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing
global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year
since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced
each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service
has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
Post by cyclintom
When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into
what they are saying.
Said the most paranoid member of this forum...
And Arctic and Antarctic ice thickness is decreasing, that glacier
thickness and coverage is decreasing, that ocean water in various
harbors is increasing in dept, that the roads from Miami to Key West
is nearly underwater...
Even in my lifetime, all sorts of changes, such as the massive reduction in
insects I remember having to clean windscreens due to dead insects etc, or
that flying ant day filled the valley and near as darkened the sun!
Let alone the various heat waves 30-40c which definitely wasn?t a thing,
and likewise snow is relatively rare now at least in southern England. To
the point London has a handful of snow plows, ie if it snows and settles
it?s hugely disruptive.
And likewise my bikes or rather the commute bikes are set up that way, ie
if it?s icy then it?s quite iffy, though as it?s flat snow is fine, it?s
just avoiding the ice. But it?s such a low probability it?s fine without
studded tires.
I do run warm but I don?t bother with gloves in winter now as it?s
generally in positive figures, not experienced-10/20 for quite some time.
Roger Merriman
Indeed Roger, but insects eat food crops so they spray with powerful
insecticides that reduce the problem. Would you rather eat or have flying ants?
I’d rather not eat food with that much chemicals, and remember insects are
the building blocks of the ecosystem we rely on to live!

Roger Merriman
cyclintom
2024-11-18 16:32:58 UTC
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Post by John B.
On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 06:31:23 -0500, zen cycle
Post by zen cycle
Post by cyclintom
Post by Shadow
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
Post by cyclintom
When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into what they are saying.
Said the most paranoid member of this forum...
And Arctic and Antarctic ice thickness is decreasing, that glacier
thickness and coverage is decreasing, that ocean water in various
harbors is increasing in dept, that the roads from Miami to Key West
is nearly underwater...
--
Cheers,
John B.
John, yes some glaciers are receeding but not much. Sea level changes such as in New York are NOT rising because of sea's rising but because the Island of New York is falling. Sea Level in San Francisco and LA is the same as it was in the Gold Rush times. In other areas they are actually falling. The Marianas Islands have been growing for the last 100 years. Perhaps not because of a fall in sea level but because of a growth of reefs and organic matter accumulating.

The blatant lies about "claimate change" killing the Coral Reefs in Australian has been shown by studies to be nothing more than a cyclic even in limited areas.

We have tidal marks on the peirs in San Francisco that have been on the filled areas since the 1906 Earthquake that haven' moved at all.

I would think that at your age you'd be able to tell when you're being bullshitted.
Jeff Liebermann
2024-11-18 18:32:37 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
We have tidal marks on the peirs in San Francisco that have been on the filled areas since the 1906 Earthquake that haven' moved at all.
See:
"Historical Golden Gate Tidal Series - NOAA Tides and Currents"
<https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/publications/techrpt35.pdf>
See the graph on Pg 20:
"Figure 6. Annual Mean Sea Level, 19 Year Moving Average Sea Level
and Sea Level Trend for the Golden Gate." 1855 to 1998

From 1855 to 1998, the mean sea level at the Golden Gate has increased
from 8.3ft to 9.0ft. That's tiny and nowhere near as huge an increase
as is often forecast. There are plenty other interesting observations
in the report including how the instruments are affected by storm
surge, tidal variations, storms, etc. Think of it as trying to
measure the mean water level in an open swimming pool.

Ok Tom, your turn. Find us a more recent or better version of the
report or the location of your unspecified tidal markers.

Not this one please:
"Artistic markers help passersby observe king tides"
<https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/place/article/artistic-markers-help-passersby-observe-king-tides-5100578.php>
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cyclintom
2024-11-18 20:15:51 UTC
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Post by Jeff Liebermann
Post by cyclintom
We have tidal marks on the peirs in San Francisco that have been on the filled areas since the 1906 Earthquake that haven' moved at all.
"Historical Golden Gate Tidal Series - NOAA Tides and Currents"
<https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/publications/techrpt35.pdf>
"Figure 6. Annual Mean Sea Level, 19 Year Moving Average Sea Level
and Sea Level Trend for the Golden Gate." 1855 to 1998
From 1855 to 1998, the mean sea level at the Golden Gate has increased
from 8.3ft to 9.0ft. That's tiny and nowhere near as huge an increase
as is often forecast. There are plenty other interesting observations
in the report including how the instruments are affected by storm
surge, tidal variations, storms, etc. Think of it as trying to
measure the mean water level in an open swimming pool.
Ok Tom, your turn. Find us a more recent or better version of the
report or the location of your unspecified tidal markers.
"Artistic markers help passersby observe king tides"
<https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/place/article/artistic-markers-help-passersby-observe-king-tides-5100578.php>
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Like every other of you references "Error 404 psge not found." So I loooked for that article and it is about the changing levels of King Tides which have to do with orbital differences between the son and moon and have nothing to do with sea level rise you moron.
Zen Cycle
2024-11-18 20:31:51 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
Post by Jeff Liebermann
Post by cyclintom
We have tidal marks on the peirs in San Francisco that have been on the filled areas since the 1906 Earthquake that haven' moved at all.
"Historical Golden Gate Tidal Series - NOAA Tides and Currents"
<https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/publications/techrpt35.pdf>
"Figure 6. Annual Mean Sea Level, 19 Year Moving Average Sea Level
and Sea Level Trend for the Golden Gate." 1855 to 1998
From 1855 to 1998, the mean sea level at the Golden Gate has increased
from 8.3ft to 9.0ft. That's tiny and nowhere near as huge an increase
as is often forecast. There are plenty other interesting observations
in the report including how the instruments are affected by storm
surge, tidal variations, storms, etc. Think of it as trying to
measure the mean water level in an open swimming pool.
Ok Tom, your turn. Find us a more recent or better version of the
report or the location of your unspecified tidal markers.
"Artistic markers help passersby observe king tides"
<https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/place/article/artistic-markers-help-passersby-observe-king-tides-5100578.php>
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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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Like every other of you references "Error 404 psge not found."
It worked for me, as I suspect everyone else who looked at it
Post by cyclintom
So I loooked for that article and it is about the changing levels of King Tides which have to do with orbital differences between the son and moon and have nothing to do with sea level rise you moron.
Yes, tommy, that was the point. Jeff was pointing out that the article
was relevant to the discussion.
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Frank Krygowski
2024-11-18 20:39:18 UTC
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Post by Zen Cycle
Post by cyclintom
Post by Jeff Liebermann
Post by cyclintom
We have tidal marks on the peirs in San Francisco that have been on
the filled areas since the 1906 Earthquake that haven' moved at all.
"Historical Golden Gate Tidal Series - NOAA Tides and Currents"
<https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/publications/techrpt35.pdf>
"Figure 6. Annual Mean Sea Level, 19 Year Moving Average Sea Level
  and Sea Level Trend for the Golden Gate."  1855 to 1998
 From 1855 to 1998, the mean sea level at the Golden Gate has increased
from 8.3ft to 9.0ft.  That's tiny and nowhere near as huge an increase
as is often forecast.  There are plenty other interesting observations
in the report including how the instruments are affected by storm
surge, tidal variations, storms, etc.  Think of it as trying to
measure the mean water level in an open swimming pool.
Ok Tom, your turn.  Find us a more recent or better version of the
report or the location of your unspecified tidal markers.
"Artistic markers help passersby observe king tides"
<https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/place/article/artistic-markers-help-
passersby-observe-king-tides-5100578.php>
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Like every other of you references "Error 404 psge not found."
It worked for me, as I suspect everyone else who looked at it
Both of Jeff's links worked for me. Tom is a wonder!
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Zen Cycle
2024-11-18 21:37:38 UTC
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Post by Zen Cycle
Post by cyclintom
Post by Jeff Liebermann
Post by cyclintom
We have tidal marks on the peirs in San Francisco that have been on
the filled areas since the 1906 Earthquake that haven' moved at all.
"Historical Golden Gate Tidal Series - NOAA Tides and Currents"
<https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/publications/techrpt35.pdf>
"Figure 6. Annual Mean Sea Level, 19 Year Moving Average Sea Level
  and Sea Level Trend for the Golden Gate."  1855 to 1998
 From 1855 to 1998, the mean sea level at the Golden Gate has increased
from 8.3ft to 9.0ft.  That's tiny and nowhere near as huge an increase
as is often forecast.  There are plenty other interesting observations
in the report including how the instruments are affected by storm
surge, tidal variations, storms, etc.  Think of it as trying to
measure the mean water level in an open swimming pool.
Ok Tom, your turn.  Find us a more recent or better version of the
report or the location of your unspecified tidal markers.
"Artistic markers help passersby observe king tides"
<https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/place/article/artistic-markers-help-
passersby-observe-king-tides-5100578.php>
--
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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann      AE6KS    831-336-2558
Like every other of you references "Error 404 psge not found."
It worked for me, as I suspect everyone else who looked at it
Post by cyclintom
So I loooked for that article and it is about the changing levels of
King Tides which have to do with orbital differences between the son
and moon and have nothing to do with sea level rise you moron.
Yes, tommy, that was the point. Jeff was pointing out that the article
was relevant to the discussion.
oops, that should have been "wasn't relevant to the discussion".
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AMuzi
2024-11-18 21:28:17 UTC
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Post by Jeff Liebermann
Post by cyclintom
We have tidal marks on the peirs in San Francisco that have been on the filled areas since the 1906 Earthquake that haven' moved at all.
"Historical Golden Gate Tidal Series - NOAA Tides and Currents"
<https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/publications/techrpt35.pdf>
"Figure 6. Annual Mean Sea Level, 19 Year Moving Average Sea Level
and Sea Level Trend for the Golden Gate." 1855 to 1998
From 1855 to 1998, the mean sea level at the Golden Gate has increased
from 8.3ft to 9.0ft. That's tiny and nowhere near as huge an increase
as is often forecast. There are plenty other interesting observations
in the report including how the instruments are affected by storm
surge, tidal variations, storms, etc. Think of it as trying to
measure the mean water level in an open swimming pool.
Ok Tom, your turn. Find us a more recent or better version of the
report or the location of your unspecified tidal markers.
"Artistic markers help passersby observe king tides"
<https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/place/article/artistic-markers-help-passersby-observe-king-tides-5100578.php>
Like every other of you references "Error 404 psge not found." So I loooked for that article and it is about the changing levels of King Tides which have to do with orbital differences between the son and moon and have nothing to do with sea level rise you moron.
Link displayed promptly for me
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Jeff Liebermann
2024-11-19 04:23:49 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
Post by Jeff Liebermann
Post by cyclintom
We have tidal marks on the peirs in San Francisco that have been on the filled areas since the 1906 Earthquake that haven' moved at all.
"Historical Golden Gate Tidal Series - NOAA Tides and Currents"
<https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/publications/techrpt35.pdf>
"Figure 6. Annual Mean Sea Level, 19 Year Moving Average Sea Level
and Sea Level Trend for the Golden Gate." 1855 to 1998
From 1855 to 1998, the mean sea level at the Golden Gate has increased
from 8.3ft to 9.0ft. That's tiny and nowhere near as huge an increase
as is often forecast. There are plenty other interesting observations
in the report including how the instruments are affected by storm
surge, tidal variations, storms, etc. Think of it as trying to
measure the mean water level in an open swimming pool.
Ok Tom, your turn. Find us a more recent or better version of the
report or the location of your unspecified tidal markers.
"Artistic markers help passersby observe king tides"
<https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/place/article/artistic-markers-help-passersby-observe-king-tides-5100578.php>
Like every other of you references "Error 404 psge not found." So I loooked for that article and it is about the changing levels of King Tides which have to do with orbital differences between the son and moon and have nothing to do with sea level rise you moron.
I just skimmed the NOAA article and found no mention of king tides.
However, the sfgate article was all about king tides and had nothing
to do with your claim that:

"We have tidal marks on the peirs in San Francisco that have been on
the filled areas since the 1906 Earthquake that haven' moved at all."

Also, the sfgate article was in my opinion a bad joke for tidal data
collection. I mentioned the article because I was certain that you
would find it and use it as an example of how the tides don't change
over the years.
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John B.
2024-11-19 03:56:16 UTC
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Post by John B.
On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 06:31:23 -0500, zen cycle
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Post by cyclintom
Post by Shadow
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
Post by cyclintom
When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into what they are saying.
Said the most paranoid member of this forum...
And Arctic and Antarctic ice thickness is decreasing, that glacier
thickness and coverage is decreasing, that ocean water in various
harbors is increasing in dept, that the roads from Miami to Key West
is nearly underwater...
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John B.
John, yes some glaciers are receeding but not much. Sea level changes such as in New York are NOT rising because of sea's rising but because the Island of New York is falling. Sea Level in San Francisco and LA is the same as it was in the Gold Rush times. In other areas they are actually falling. The Marianas Islands have been growing for the last 100 years. Perhaps not because of a fall in sea level but because of a growth of reefs and organic matter accumulating.
The blatant lies about "claimate change" killing the Coral Reefs in Australian has been shown by studies to be nothing more than a cyclic even in limited areas.
We have tidal marks on the peirs in San Francisco that have been on the filled areas since the 1906 Earthquake that haven' moved at all.
How much has the sea level rise in San Francisco Bay?
Sea Level Rise in California and San Francisco Bay
San Francisco and La Jolla have recorded an average sea level rise of
about 2.0 mm per year since the late 19th century. This is comparable
to a global average during the 20th century of 1.4 mm per year - a
pace that has not been exceeded in any century since at least 2,800
years ago.

https://baykeeper.org/shoreview/california-slr.html
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Cheers,

John B.
AMuzi
2024-11-19 13:40:34 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
Post by John B.
On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 06:31:23 -0500, zen cycle
Post by zen cycle
Post by cyclintom
Post by Shadow
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
Post by cyclintom
When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into what they are saying.
Said the most paranoid member of this forum...
And Arctic and Antarctic ice thickness is decreasing, that glacier
thickness and coverage is decreasing, that ocean water in various
harbors is increasing in dept, that the roads from Miami to Key West
is nearly underwater...
--
Cheers,
John B.
John, yes some glaciers are receeding but not much. Sea level changes such as in New York are NOT rising because of sea's rising but because the Island of New York is falling. Sea Level in San Francisco and LA is the same as it was in the Gold Rush times. In other areas they are actually falling. The Marianas Islands have been growing for the last 100 years. Perhaps not because of a fall in sea level but because of a growth of reefs and organic matter accumulating.
The blatant lies about "claimate change" killing the Coral Reefs in Australian has been shown by studies to be nothing more than a cyclic even in limited areas.
We have tidal marks on the peirs in San Francisco that have been on the filled areas since the 1906 Earthquake that haven' moved at all.
How much has the sea level rise in San Francisco Bay?
Sea Level Rise in California and San Francisco Bay
San Francisco and La Jolla have recorded an average sea level rise of
about 2.0 mm per year since the late 19th century. This is comparable
to a global average during the 20th century of 1.4 mm per year - a
pace that has not been exceeded in any century since at least 2,800
years ago.
https://baykeeper.org/shoreview/california-slr.html
In relative terms only. Plate subsidence in the bay area is
dropping at roughly that rate. The orogeny is farther inland:

https://earth.org/data_visualization/california-subsidence-as-the-water-around-it-rises/
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Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Frank Krygowski
2024-11-18 15:17:13 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
    Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
    PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy  - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer
called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-
correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least
skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing
global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year
since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced
each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service
has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/
global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
I used to read _Scientific American_ regularly. Back in the 1980s (or
maybe the 1970s) it had a brief article about interesting data from
English farmer diaries.

It explained that English farmers had a tradition of keeping weather
records, planting records, harvest records etc. Of course, the farmers
were very interested in the dates of the last frost, as that directly
affected their planting schedule.

Some historian was compiling data from those diaries, and noticed the
dates of the final frost had been creeping earlier and earlier as time
went on.

I remember thinking "That's significant. Something is definitely going
on here!" I think that's the first time I encountered the idea of a
changing climate.
--
- Frank Krygowski
cyclintom
2024-11-18 17:12:33 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer
called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-
correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least
skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing
global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year
since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced
each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service
has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/
global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
I used to read _Scientific American_ regularly. Back in the 1980s (or
maybe the 1970s) it had a brief article about interesting data from
English farmer diaries.
It explained that English farmers had a tradition of keeping weather
records, planting records, harvest records etc. Of course, the farmers
were very interested in the dates of the last frost, as that directly
affected their planting schedule.
Some historian was compiling data from those diaries, and noticed the
dates of the final frost had been creeping earlier and earlier as time
went on.
I remember thinking "That's significant. Something is definitely going
on here!" I think that's the first time I encountered the idea of a
changing climate.
--
- Frank Krygowski
The Records from the national weather service show an extreme distortion of the weather record since the early 20th century had the Dust Bowl. The Earth's orbit around the sun is not perfectly round and it precesses. This causes long term cyclic changes in the climate but it rarely hits the extremes of the Dust Bowl years. When the northern summer coincides with the closest pass by the sun OR there is a period of lomg term dissuption in the Sun's atmostphere (termed Sun Spots) there are weather or even climate changes.

CO2 in the atrmosphere has nothing to do with the climate. Politicians long ago determined that if you keep people in fear of something they were much easier to control.

https://www.britannica.com/science/Little-Ice-Age
https://climatecite.com/the-big-lie-about-co2/
John B.
2024-11-19 03:41:56 UTC
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AMuzi
2024-11-18 21:13:10 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:49:28 GMT, cyclintom
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year
on record.
    Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple
as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
    PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy  - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It
is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single
prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-
climate-models- correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without
the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of
a percent changing global temperatures consider this the
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure
each year since Biden was elected through election fraud.
They have announced each year as the hottest on record
when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
The NWS reports historic data held by the NOAA. This is
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-
report/ global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump
(barf) administration as well. Biden had nothing to do
with it.
I used to read _Scientific American_ regularly. Back in the
1980s (or maybe the 1970s) it had a brief article about
interesting data from English farmer diaries.
It explained that English farmers had a tradition of keeping
weather records, planting records, harvest records etc. Of
course, the farmers were very interested in the dates of the
last frost, as that directly affected their planting schedule.
Some historian was compiling data from those diaries, and
noticed the dates of the final frost had been creeping
earlier and earlier as time went on.
I remember thinking "That's significant. Something is
definitely going on here!" I think that's the first time I
encountered the idea of a changing climate.
Under Hadrian, the garrisons at The Wall paid their keep by
exporting iron and wine. In the middle ages, the vineyards
were too cold to produce and the Britons drank mead instead.
It's likely cultivation of grapes in UK will increase soon,
i.e., back to normal.
--
Andrew Muzi
***@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Roger Merriman
2024-11-18 22:16:30 UTC
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Post by Frank Krygowski
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Post by cyclintom
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:49:28 GMT, cyclintom
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year
on record.
    Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple
as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
    PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy  - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It
is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single
prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-
climate-models- correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without
the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of
a percent changing global temperatures consider this the
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure
each year since Biden was elected through election fraud.
They have announced each year as the hottest on record
when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
The NWS reports historic data held by the NOAA. This is
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-
report/ global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump
(barf) administration as well. Biden had nothing to do
with it.
I used to read _Scientific American_ regularly. Back in the
1980s (or maybe the 1970s) it had a brief article about
interesting data from English farmer diaries.
It explained that English farmers had a tradition of keeping
weather records, planting records, harvest records etc. Of
course, the farmers were very interested in the dates of the
last frost, as that directly affected their planting schedule.
Some historian was compiling data from those diaries, and
noticed the dates of the final frost had been creeping
earlier and earlier as time went on.
I remember thinking "That's significant. Something is
definitely going on here!" I think that's the first time I
encountered the idea of a changing climate.
Under Hadrian, the garrisons at The Wall paid their keep by
exporting iron and wine. In the middle ages, the vineyards
were too cold to produce and the Britons drank mead instead.
It's likely cultivation of grapes in UK will increase soon,
i.e., back to normal.
I don’t believe that’s true that UK and in particular northern
England/Scotland was that warm. Or warmer than it is now.

Lots of letters of them complaining about the weather, though that depends
on where in the Roman Empire they had come from clearly.

Roger Merriman
AMuzi
2024-11-18 22:32:11 UTC
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Post by Frank Krygowski
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Post by cyclintom
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:49:28 GMT, cyclintom
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year
on record.
    Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple
as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
    PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy  - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It
is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single
prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-
climate-models- correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without
the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of
a percent changing global temperatures consider this the
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure
each year since Biden was elected through election fraud.
They have announced each year as the hottest on record
when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
The NWS reports historic data held by the NOAA. This is
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-
report/ global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump
(barf) administration as well. Biden had nothing to do
with it.
I used to read _Scientific American_ regularly. Back in the
1980s (or maybe the 1970s) it had a brief article about
interesting data from English farmer diaries.
It explained that English farmers had a tradition of keeping
weather records, planting records, harvest records etc. Of
course, the farmers were very interested in the dates of the
last frost, as that directly affected their planting schedule.
Some historian was compiling data from those diaries, and
noticed the dates of the final frost had been creeping
earlier and earlier as time went on.
I remember thinking "That's significant. Something is
definitely going on here!" I think that's the first time I
encountered the idea of a changing climate.
Under Hadrian, the garrisons at The Wall paid their keep by
exporting iron and wine. In the middle ages, the vineyards
were too cold to produce and the Britons drank mead instead.
It's likely cultivation of grapes in UK will increase soon,
i.e., back to normal.
I don’t believe that’s true that UK and in particular northern
England/Scotland was that warm. Or warmer than it is now.
Lots of letters of them complaining about the weather, though that depends
on where in the Roman Empire they had come from clearly.
Roger Merriman
http://www.strangehistory.net/2012/12/24/roman-and-medieval-vinyards-in-chilly-britain/

William The Conqueror had some large number of vineyards on
his tax rolls:

https://www.domesdaybook.net/domesday-book/data-terminology/manors/vineyard
--
Andrew Muzi
***@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
John B.
2024-11-19 02:57:08 UTC
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Post by AMuzi
Post by Frank Krygowski
Post by zen cycle
Post by cyclintom
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:49:28 GMT, cyclintom
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year
on record.
    Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple
as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
    PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy  - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It
is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single
prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-
climate-models- correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without
the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of
a percent changing global temperatures consider this the
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure
each year since Biden was elected through election fraud.
They have announced each year as the hottest on record
when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
The NWS reports historic data held by the NOAA. This is
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-
report/ global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump
(barf) administration as well. Biden had nothing to do
with it.
I used to read _Scientific American_ regularly. Back in the
1980s (or maybe the 1970s) it had a brief article about
interesting data from English farmer diaries.
It explained that English farmers had a tradition of keeping
weather records, planting records, harvest records etc. Of
course, the farmers were very interested in the dates of the
last frost, as that directly affected their planting schedule.
Some historian was compiling data from those diaries, and
noticed the dates of the final frost had been creeping
earlier and earlier as time went on.
I remember thinking "That's significant. Something is
definitely going on here!" I think that's the first time I
encountered the idea of a changing climate.
Under Hadrian, the garrisons at The Wall paid their keep by
exporting iron and wine. In the middle ages, the vineyards
were too cold to produce and the Britons drank mead instead.
It's likely cultivation of grapes in UK will increase soon,
i.e., back to normal.
I don’t believe that’s true that UK and in particular northern
England/Scotland was that warm. Or warmer than it is now.
Lots of letters of them complaining about the weather, though that depends
on where in the Roman Empire they had come from clearly.
Roger Merriman
http://www.strangehistory.net/2012/12/24/roman-and-medieval-vinyards-in-chilly-britain/
William The Conqueror had some large number of vineyards on
https://www.domesdaybook.net/domesday-book/data-terminology/manors/vineyard
And, the rapid increase in world temperature begins in the 1800's
And, strangely
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution
--
Cheers,

John B.
AMuzi
2024-11-19 03:54:28 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:49:28 GMT, cyclintom
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
    Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
    PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy  - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It
is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single
prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-
climate-models- correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without
the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of
a percent changing global temperatures consider this the
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure
each year since Biden was elected through election fraud.
They have announced each year as the hottest on record
when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
The NWS reports historic data held by the NOAA. This is
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-
report/ global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump
(barf) administration as well. Biden had nothing to do
with it.
I used to read _Scientific American_ regularly. Back in the
1980s (or maybe the 1970s) it had a brief article about
interesting data from English farmer diaries.
It explained that English farmers had a tradition of keeping
weather records, planting records, harvest records etc. Of
course, the farmers were very interested in the dates of the
last frost, as that directly affected their planting schedule.
Some historian was compiling data from those diaries, and
noticed the dates of the final frost had been creeping
earlier and earlier as time went on.
I remember thinking "That's significant. Something is
definitely going on here!" I think that's the first time I
encountered the idea of a changing climate.
Under Hadrian, the garrisons at The Wall paid their keep by
exporting iron and wine. In the middle ages, the vineyards
were too cold to produce and the Britons drank mead instead.
It's likely cultivation of grapes in UK will increase soon,
i.e., back to normal.
I don’t believe that’s true that UK and in particular northern
England/Scotland was that warm. Or warmer than it is now.
Lots of letters of them complaining about the weather, though that depends
on where in the Roman Empire they had come from clearly.
Roger Merriman
http://www.strangehistory.net/2012/12/24/roman-and-medieval-vinyards-in-chilly-britain/
William The Conqueror had some large number of vineyards on
https://www.domesdaybook.net/domesday-book/data-terminology/manors/vineyard
And, the rapid increase in world temperature begins in the 1800's
And, strangely
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution
Which caused the Global Warming during the Roman Empire. Got
it, thanks.
--
Andrew Muzi
***@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
John B.
2024-11-19 05:28:14 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:49:28 GMT, cyclintom
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
    Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
    PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
    []'s
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Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It
is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single
prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-
climate-models- correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without
the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of
a percent changing global temperatures consider this the
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure
each year since Biden was elected through election fraud.
They have announced each year as the hottest on record
when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
The NWS reports historic data held by the NOAA. This is
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-
report/ global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump
(barf) administration as well. Biden had nothing to do
with it.
I used to read _Scientific American_ regularly. Back in the
1980s (or maybe the 1970s) it had a brief article about
interesting data from English farmer diaries.
It explained that English farmers had a tradition of keeping
weather records, planting records, harvest records etc. Of
course, the farmers were very interested in the dates of the
last frost, as that directly affected their planting schedule.
Some historian was compiling data from those diaries, and
noticed the dates of the final frost had been creeping
earlier and earlier as time went on.
I remember thinking "That's significant. Something is
definitely going on here!" I think that's the first time I
encountered the idea of a changing climate.
Under Hadrian, the garrisons at The Wall paid their keep by
exporting iron and wine. In the middle ages, the vineyards
were too cold to produce and the Britons drank mead instead.
It's likely cultivation of grapes in UK will increase soon,
i.e., back to normal.
I don’t believe that’s true that UK and in particular northern
England/Scotland was that warm. Or warmer than it is now.
Lots of letters of them complaining about the weather, though that depends
on where in the Roman Empire they had come from clearly.
Roger Merriman
http://www.strangehistory.net/2012/12/24/roman-and-medieval-vinyards-in-chilly-britain/
William The Conqueror had some large number of vineyards on
https://www.domesdaybook.net/domesday-book/data-terminology/manors/vineyard
And, the rapid increase in world temperature begins in the 1800's
And, strangely
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution
Which caused the Global Warming during the Roman Empire. Got
it, thanks.
https://news.yale.edu/2020/06/22/climate-change-and-rise-roman-empire
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Cheers,

John B.
AMuzi
2024-11-19 14:00:07 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:49:28 GMT, cyclintom
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
    Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
    PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy  - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It
is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single
prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-
climate-models- correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without
the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of
a percent changing global temperatures consider this the
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure
each year since Biden was elected through election fraud.
They have announced each year as the hottest on record
when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
The NWS reports historic data held by the NOAA. This is
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-
report/ global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump
(barf) administration as well. Biden had nothing to do
with it.
I used to read _Scientific American_ regularly. Back in the
1980s (or maybe the 1970s) it had a brief article about
interesting data from English farmer diaries.
It explained that English farmers had a tradition of keeping
weather records, planting records, harvest records etc. Of
course, the farmers were very interested in the dates of the
last frost, as that directly affected their planting schedule.
Some historian was compiling data from those diaries, and
noticed the dates of the final frost had been creeping
earlier and earlier as time went on.
I remember thinking "That's significant. Something is
definitely going on here!" I think that's the first time I
encountered the idea of a changing climate.
Under Hadrian, the garrisons at The Wall paid their keep by
exporting iron and wine. In the middle ages, the vineyards
were too cold to produce and the Britons drank mead instead.
It's likely cultivation of grapes in UK will increase soon,
i.e., back to normal.
I don’t believe that’s true that UK and in particular northern
England/Scotland was that warm. Or warmer than it is now.
Lots of letters of them complaining about the weather, though that depends
on where in the Roman Empire they had come from clearly.
Roger Merriman
http://www.strangehistory.net/2012/12/24/roman-and-medieval-vinyards-in-chilly-britain/
William The Conqueror had some large number of vineyards on
https://www.domesdaybook.net/domesday-book/data-terminology/manors/vineyard
And, the rapid increase in world temperature begins in the 1800's
And, strangely
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution
Which caused the Global Warming during the Roman Empire. Got
it, thanks.
https://news.yale.edu/2020/06/22/climate-change-and-rise-roman-empire
History is filled with examples. 1320/1321 were excessively
cold and wet in Europe with widespread crop failures, lack
of forage, famine, social tumult and general dimunition of
European culture and Europeans. With the Mongols to the
east, trade patterns changed abruptly and along with that
Black Death a few years later killed est 20 million or about
a third of Europeans.

OTOH warmer with more CO2 is great for plants. Such as wheat.
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Frank Krygowski
2024-11-19 15:28:56 UTC
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Post by John B.
And, the rapid increase in world temperature begins in the 1800's
And, strangely
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution
Which caused the Global Warming during the Roman Empire. Got it, thanks.
Nobody is claiming that there were no climate changes in the past.
Everybody should know that there were some that were rather sudden - for
example, triggered by volcanic activity.

That does not disprove that humans are causing rapid climate change
right now. And it does not disprove that civilization is likely to
suffer mightily because of it. It doesn't disprove that we should be
taking steps to mitigate these changes.
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- Frank Krygowski
Roger Merriman
2024-11-19 08:58:06 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:49:28 GMT, cyclintom
Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year
on record.
    Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple
as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
    PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy  - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It
is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single
prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-
climate-models- correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without
the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of
a percent changing global temperatures consider this the
truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure
each year since Biden was elected through election fraud.
They have announced each year as the hottest on record
when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
The NWS reports historic data held by the NOAA. This is
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-
report/ global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump
(barf) administration as well. Biden had nothing to do
with it.
I used to read _Scientific American_ regularly. Back in the
1980s (or maybe the 1970s) it had a brief article about
interesting data from English farmer diaries.
It explained that English farmers had a tradition of keeping
weather records, planting records, harvest records etc. Of
course, the farmers were very interested in the dates of the
last frost, as that directly affected their planting schedule.
Some historian was compiling data from those diaries, and
noticed the dates of the final frost had been creeping
earlier and earlier as time went on.
I remember thinking "That's significant. Something is
definitely going on here!" I think that's the first time I
encountered the idea of a changing climate.
Under Hadrian, the garrisons at The Wall paid their keep by
exporting iron and wine. In the middle ages, the vineyards
were too cold to produce and the Britons drank mead instead.
It's likely cultivation of grapes in UK will increase soon,
i.e., back to normal.
I don’t believe that’s true that UK and in particular northern
England/Scotland was that warm. Or warmer than it is now.
Lots of letters of them complaining about the weather, though that depends
on where in the Roman Empire they had come from clearly.
Roger Merriman
http://www.strangehistory.net/2012/12/24/roman-and-medieval-vinyards-in-chilly-britain/
William The Conqueror had some large number of vineyards on
https://www.domesdaybook.net/domesday-book/data-terminology/manors/vineyard
Nowhere near Hadrian’s wall all in south England, where there are vineyards
now and some have some history to them.

The Roman warm period was a brief period few hundred years, and would have
been approximately late 20th century not the temperature we are today ie
cooler. And certainly not being the warmest on record etc most years.

Roger Merriman
cyclintom
2024-11-18 16:22:56 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
Post by cyclintom
When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into what they are saying.
Said the most paranoid member of this forum...
Rather than seeing a long term cycle, you see a rise in temperature. That is because you want to believe the world began in 1850.



i just can't believe how stupid you are.
Zen Cycle
2024-11-18 20:36:48 UTC
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Post by cyclintom
NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
Post by cyclintom
When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into what they are saying.
Said the most paranoid member of this forum...
Rather than seeing a long term cycle, you see a rise in temperature.
I see the deviation in the long-term cycle.
Post by cyclintom
That is because you want to believe the world began in 1850.
I do? funny, it's hard to demonstrate climate change if you only look
back 170 years.
Post by cyclintom
i just can't believe how stupid you are.
I I though you had any credibility, I just might care.

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John B.
2024-11-19 04:01:59 UTC
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NASA just annouced again that this was the hottest year on record.
Well, it must be true then. People with good University
Degrees rarely make mistakes, not about things as simple as weather
reports. And NASA hires a lot of them.
PS It's called Global Warming. Here in Brazil we had over 40C
IN THE WINTER. Never been so hot.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
Well, isn't a large part of Brazil near the equator? It is no longer called "Global Warming" since not ONE single prediction even came close.
https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
Post by cyclintom
So now they call it "Climate Change" and people without the least skepticiam about CO2 changing 30 hundredths of a percent changing global temperatures consider this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truths.
As fat as NASA goes - they have lied about the temperaure each year since Biden was elected through election fraud. They have announced each year as the hottest on record when the National Weather Service has not found that so.
The National Weather Service (NWS) is part of the the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The NWS reports historic data
held by the NOAA. This is what the NOAA has to say about yearly
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/global/202410/supplemental/page-1
NASA and NOAA noted temperature increases during the trump (barf)
administration as well. Biden had nothing to do with it.
Post by cyclintom
When you are being controlled with fear you might at least look into what they are saying.
Said the most paranoid member of this forum...
Rather than seeing a long term cycle, you see a rise in temperature. That is because you want to believe the world began in 1850.
But Tommy the greatest rise in temperature began in the 1980's and
hasn't stopped since.
https://www.nytimes.com/1988/03/29/science/temperature-for-world-rises-sharply-in-the-1980-s.html
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/global-temperatures
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i just can't believe how stupid you are.
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John B.
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