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cyclintom
2025-02-20 18:46:05 UTC
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I have finished everything on the bike except the hydraulics and I must say that it is a very nice bike. It is NOT very light and the interior of the frame is a little rough and internal cables are an absolute pain in the butt to connect, but once compleated the setup is nice,

Hydraulic kits inslude the hose and ends, but finding just the hardware is something of a contest. These setups are so cheap that no one other than local bike shops want to carry them so they are quite expensive. If you find a sourse on-line sellers seem to treat them with contempt. I ordered one set 20 days ago and it quite obviously never even arrived at the USPS and I had to wait 20 days for a refund. A small box of small parts simply tossed and fallen off of a conveyer and no one concerned about it.

So now I have to wait yet another 2 weeks and hope that these don't get lost in an equal manner.

I used the GRX group because I had it here. But if I can get along with the disks, I will install a Campagnolo 12 speed on the Idol also.

The GRX group is not very well designed and the shift woirs are poorly routed. While I could more cheaply get a Ultegra hydraulic setup, the question is, would I miss the Campy which is on the other good bikes? I will have to think about that.
AMuzi
2025-02-20 19:20:02 UTC
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I have finished everything on the bike except the hydraulics and I must say that it is a very nice bike. It is NOT very light and the interior of the frame is a little rough and internal cables are an absolute pain in the butt to connect, but once compleated the setup is nice,
Hydraulic kits inslude the hose and ends, but finding just the hardware is something of a contest. These setups are so cheap that no one other than local bike shops want to carry them so they are quite expensive. If you find a sourse on-line sellers seem to treat them with contempt. I ordered one set 20 days ago and it quite obviously never even arrived at the USPS and I had to wait 20 days for a refund. A small box of small parts simply tossed and fallen off of a conveyer and no one concerned about it.
So now I have to wait yet another 2 weeks and hope that these don't get lost in an equal manner.
I used the GRX group because I had it here. But if I can get along with the disks, I will install a Campagnolo 12 speed on the Idol also.
The GRX group is not very well designed and the shift woirs are poorly routed. While I could more cheaply get a Ultegra hydraulic setup, the question is, would I miss the Campy which is on the other good bikes? I will have to think about that.
First search result is two pairs for $5.99 at Wal Mart:

https://www.walmart.com/search?q=shimano+brake+barb+%26+olive
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cyclintom
2025-02-20 20:23:23 UTC
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I have finished everything on the bike except the hydraulics and I must say that it is a very nice bike. It is NOT very light and the interior of the frame is a little rough and internal cables are an absolute pain in the butt to connect, but once compleated the setup is nice,
Hydraulic kits inslude the hose and ends, but finding just the hardware is something of a contest. These setups are so cheap that no one other than local bike shops want to carry them so they are quite expensive. If you find a sourse on-line sellers seem to treat them with contempt. I ordered one set 20 days ago and it quite obviously never even arrived at the USPS and I had to wait 20 days for a refund. A small box of small parts simply tossed and fallen off of a conveyer and no one concerned about it.
So now I have to wait yet another 2 weeks and hope that these don't get lost in an equal manner.
I used the GRX group because I had it here. But if I can get along with the disks, I will install a Campagnolo 12 speed on the Idol also.
The GRX group is not very well designed and the shift woirs are poorly routed. While I could more cheaply get a Ultegra hydraulic setup, the question is, would I miss the Campy which is on the other good bikes? I will have to think about that.
https://www.walmart.com/search?q=shimano+brake+barb+%26+olive
The brake barb and olive set should be delivered any minute now but the hose cutter etc. had to ber wouted up. I ordered and recieved a bleeder kit. All I have to do is remember how to figure the hose length fit and I'm in for free mow since I have the nuts off of the levers and previous hoses.
cyclintom
2025-02-20 20:24:03 UTC
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I have finished everything on the bike except the hydraulics and I must say that it is a very nice bike. It is NOT very light and the interior of the frame is a little rough and internal cables are an absolute pain in the butt to connect, but once compleated the setup is nice,
Hydraulic kits inslude the hose and ends, but finding just the hardware is something of a contest. These setups are so cheap that no one other than local bike shops want to carry them so they are quite expensive. If you find a sourse on-line sellers seem to treat them with contempt. I ordered one set 20 days ago and it quite obviously never even arrived at the USPS and I had to wait 20 days for a refund. A small box of small parts simply tossed and fallen off of a conveyer and no one concerned about it.
So now I have to wait yet another 2 weeks and hope that these don't get lost in an equal manner.
I used the GRX group because I had it here. But if I can get along with the disks, I will install a Campagnolo 12 speed on the Idol also.
The GRX group is not very well designed and the shift woirs are poorly routed. While I could more cheaply get a Ultegra hydraulic setup, the question is, would I miss the Campy which is on the other good bikes? I will have to think about that.
https://www.walmart.com/search?q=shimano+brake+barb+%26+olive
The brake barb and olive set should be delivered any minute now but the hose cutter etc. had to ber wouted up. I ordered and recieved a bleeder kit. All I have to do is remember how to figure the hose length fit and I'm in for free mow since I have the nuts off of the levers and previous hoses.
Mark J cleary
2025-02-20 20:41:46 UTC
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I have finished everything on the bike except the hydraulics and I must say that it is a very nice bike. It is NOT very light and the interior of the frame is a little rough and internal cables are an absolute pain in the butt to connect, but once compleated the setup is nice,
Hydraulic kits inslude the hose and ends, but finding just the hardware is something of a contest. These setups are so cheap that no one other than local bike shops want to carry them so they are quite expensive. If you find a sourse on-line sellers seem to treat them with contempt. I ordered one set 20 days ago and it quite obviously never even arrived at the USPS and I had to wait 20 days for a refund. A small box of small parts simply tossed and fallen off of a conveyer and no one concerned about it.
So now I have to wait yet another 2 weeks and hope that these don't get lost in an equal manner.
I used the GRX group because I had it here. But if I can get along with the disks, I will install a Campagnolo 12 speed on the Idol also.
The GRX group is not very well designed and the shift woirs are poorly routed. While I could more cheaply get a Ultegra hydraulic setup, the question is, would I miss the Campy which is on the other good bikes? I will have to think about that.
https://www.walmart.com/search?q=shimano+brake+barb+%26+olive
The brake barb and olive set should be delivered any minute now but the hose cutter etc. had to ber wouted up. I ordered and recieved a bleeder kit. All I have to do is remember how to figure the hose length fit and I'm in for free mow since I have the nuts off of the levers and previous hoses.
Put a small piece of brake housing in the hose and use your cable cutter
it will cut off perfect.
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cyclintom
2025-02-20 20:24:37 UTC
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I have finished everything on the bike except the hydraulics and I must say that it is a very nice bike. It is NOT very light and the interior of the frame is a little rough and internal cables are an absolute pain in the butt to connect, but once compleated the setup is nice,
Hydraulic kits inslude the hose and ends, but finding just the hardware is something of a contest. These setups are so cheap that no one other than local bike shops want to carry them so they are quite expensive. If you find a sourse on-line sellers seem to treat them with contempt. I ordered one set 20 days ago and it quite obviously never even arrived at the USPS and I had to wait 20 days for a refund. A small box of small parts simply tossed and fallen off of a conveyer and no one concerned about it.
So now I have to wait yet another 2 weeks and hope that these don't get lost in an equal manner.
I used the GRX group because I had it here. But if I can get along with the disks, I will install a Campagnolo 12 speed on the Idol also.
The GRX group is not very well designed and the shift woirs are poorly routed. While I could more cheaply get a Ultegra hydraulic setup, the question is, would I miss the Campy which is on the other good bikes? I will have to think about that.
https://www.walmart.com/search?q=shimano+brake+barb+%26+olive
The brake barb and olive set should be delivered any minute now but the hose cutter etc. had to ber wouted up. I ordered and recieved a bleeder kit. All I have to do is remember how to figure the hose length fit and I'm in for free mow since I have the nuts off of the levers and previous hoses.
cyclintom
2025-02-21 15:34:36 UTC
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I have finished everything on the bike except the hydraulics and I must say that it is a very nice bike. It is NOT very light and the interior of the frame is a little rough and internal cables are an absolute pain in the butt to connect, but once compleated the setup is nice,
Hydraulic kits inslude the hose and ends, but finding just the hardware is something of a contest. These setups are so cheap that no one other than local bike shops want to carry them so they are quite expensive. If you find a sourse on-line sellers seem to treat them with contempt. I ordered one set 20 days ago and it quite obviously never even arrived at the USPS and I had to wait 20 days for a refund. A small box of small parts simply tossed and fallen off of a conveyer and no one concerned about it.
So now I have to wait yet another 2 weeks and hope that these don't get lost in an equal manner.
I used the GRX group because I had it here. But if I can get along with the disks, I will install a Campagnolo 12 speed on the Idol also.
The GRX group is not very well designed and the shift woirs are poorly routed. While I could more cheaply get a Ultegra hydraulic setup, the question is, would I miss the Campy which is on the other good bikes? I will have to think about that.
https://www.walmart.com/search?q=shimano+brake+barb+%26+olive
The brake barb and olive set should be delivered any minute now but the hose cutter etc. had to be rounded up. I ordered and recieved a bleeder kit. All I have to do is remember how to figure the hose length fit and I'm in for free now since I have the nuts off of the levers and previous hoses. The trouble with hydraulic brakes is that you need a lot of support parts to set them up.
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