11.11 Singles Day Specials Still Available for Bicycle Lights

[sms]

The 11.11, singles day sale is still on, so there are some good deals at
AliExpress on bicycle lights

The Gaciron V9DP-2000 (2000 lumens) is $79.26
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800823142099.html>

The Gaciron V9DP-1800 (1800 lumens) is $60.57
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832616433059.html>

Both of these have a DRL, lower intensity, "breathe mode" rather than a
just a high-intensity strobe (they have a strobe too). Both are USB-C.

They sell extra handlebar mounts as well, $10.75:
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832619568737.html>

[Roger Merriman]

Post by sms
The 11.11, singles day sale is still on, so there are some good deals at
AliExpress on bicycle lights
The Gaciron V9DP-2000 (2000 lumens) is $79.26
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800823142099.html>
The Gaciron V9DP-1800 (1800 lumens) is $60.57
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832616433059.html>
Both of these have a DRL, lower intensity, "breathe mode" rather than a
just a high-intensity strobe (they have a strobe too). Both are USB-C.
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832619568737.html>

I think I’d be wary of a brand I don’t know and well Aliexpress in terms of
if something goes wrong, and just the unknown, particularly as these are
dirt cheap but enough of value that I’d think about kit at that price.

While I don’t particularly like the light I use as daylight running light,
on the gravel bike, frankly I have more lights than I need! With two main
lights and one torch style intended for use on the Helmet, plus a blinkie.

Roger Merriman

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by sms
The 11.11, singles day sale is still on, so there are some good deals at
AliExpress on bicycle lights
The Gaciron V9DP-2000 (2000 lumens) is $79.26
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800823142099.html>
The Gaciron V9DP-1800 (1800 lumens) is $60.57
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832616433059.html>
Both of these have a DRL, lower intensity, "breathe mode" rather than a
just a high-intensity strobe (they have a strobe too). Both are USB-C.
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832619568737.html>

I think I’d be wary of a brand I don’t know and well Aliexpress in terms of
if something goes wrong, and just the unknown, particularly as these are
dirt cheap but enough of value that I’d think about kit at that price.

I'll note that years ago, Mr. "sms" had a website on which he bragged
about his "guerilla marketing." He defined that as posting good reviews
on discussion boards to generate sales.

At that time, if you ordered one of his recommended products through his
website, he got a commission. I don't know if that's still true, but his
admission of that strategy makes me skeptical of his recommendations.

[Catrike Ryder]

On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 10:22:51 -0500, Frank Krygowski

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by sms
The 11.11, singles day sale is still on, so there are some good deals at
AliExpress on bicycle lights
The Gaciron V9DP-2000 (2000 lumens) is $79.26
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800823142099.html>
The Gaciron V9DP-1800 (1800 lumens) is $60.57
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832616433059.html>
Both of these have a DRL, lower intensity, "breathe mode" rather than a
just a high-intensity strobe (they have a strobe too). Both are USB-C.
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832619568737.html>

I think I’d be wary of a brand I don’t know and well Aliexpress in terms of
if something goes wrong, and just the unknown, particularly as these are
dirt cheap but enough of value that I’d think about kit at that price.

I'll note that years ago, Mr. "sms" had a website on which he bragged
about his "guerilla marketing." He defined that as posting good reviews
on discussion boards to generate sales.
At that time, if you ordered one of his recommended products through his
website, he got a commission. I don't know if that's still true, but his
admission of that strategy makes me skeptical of his recommendations.

I'm skeptical of all unsolicited recomendations.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

[Roger Merriman]

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by sms
The 11.11, singles day sale is still on, so there are some good deals at
AliExpress on bicycle lights
The Gaciron V9DP-2000 (2000 lumens) is $79.26
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800823142099.html>
The Gaciron V9DP-1800 (1800 lumens) is $60.57
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832616433059.html>
Both of these have a DRL, lower intensity, "breathe mode" rather than a
just a high-intensity strobe (they have a strobe too). Both are USB-C.
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832619568737.html>

I think I’d be wary of a brand I don’t know and well Aliexpress in terms of
if something goes wrong, and just the unknown, particularly as these are
dirt cheap but enough of value that I’d think about kit at that price.

I'll note that years ago, Mr. "sms" had a website on which he bragged
about his "guerilla marketing." He defined that as posting good reviews
on discussion boards to generate sales.
At that time, if you ordered one of his recommended products through his
website, he got a commission. I don't know if that's still true, but his
admission of that strategy makes me skeptical of his recommendations.

Can’t imagine is much financial value in any links here at least! With a
handful of posters, and eyes on the links!

It sort of goes back to the online only is fine, but some products are
better served with bricks and mortar, or companies that have good customer
experience and so on, my rear light on the Gravel bike is a Amazon special
etc buts it’s only £10 after all always the risk of being ejected or
trashed.

At the £45 plus mark I think I’d want a bit more information particularly
for a front light. Ie how close to 2k lumens is it? Gives a beam angle but
is more than that, my two big lights, both Exposure lights, are very much
the same physical light or at least case, and battery plus LED but how it’s
delivered.

the beam angle is quite close both have wide beam shape, the Strada being
road focused (if you excuse the pun) has a more even or flatter beam
intensity edge to edge, while the Race while still wide, has more of
intensity in the centre not by much but enough to be noticeable, plus will
kick out 1000 or so more, than the Strada depending on the conditions the
Race will automatically adjust the level depending on speed and motion, the
Strada just is, though some will automatically adjust down if they detect
another light.

Roger Merriman

[sms]

On 11/15/2024 9:11 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:

<snip>

Post by Roger Merriman
Can’t imagine is much financial value in any links here at least! With a
handful of posters, and eyes on the links!

LOL, Frank is obsessed with the fact that decades ago I had an Amazon
Affiliate account. I think that I made a total of $25 from it!

Post by Roger Merriman
It sort of goes back to the online only is fine, but some products are
better served with bricks and mortar, or companies that have good customer
experience and so on, my rear light on the Gravel bike is a Amazon special
etc buts it’s only £10 after all always the risk of being ejected or
trashed.

Bicycle lights are one item that shops in my area are not good at. If
it's a Trek tied shop then their offerings are especially mediocre.

Post by Roger Merriman
At the £45 plus mark I think I’d want a bit more information particularly
for a front light. Ie how close to 2k lumens is it? Gives a beam angle but
is more than that, my two big lights, both Exposure lights, are very much
the same physical light or at least case, and battery plus LED but how it’s
delivered.

Gaciron doesn't appear to be using "Chi-Lumens" but actual lumens, or
close to it (at least not a 5x exaggeration!).

The numbers bear this out with a 6700mAH battery (2x3350mAH 3.63V LG
18650) and two LEDs, presumably 100-110 lumens/watt.

Beam angle is 125°.

[Roger Merriman]

Post by sms
<snip>

Post by Roger Merriman
Can’t imagine is much financial value in any links here at least! With a
handful of posters, and eyes on the links!

LOL, Frank is obsessed with the fact that decades ago I had an Amazon
Affiliate account. I think that I made a total of $25 from it!

Post by Roger Merriman
It sort of goes back to the online only is fine, but some products are
better served with bricks and mortar, or companies that have good customer
experience and so on, my rear light on the Gravel bike is a Amazon special
etc buts it’s only £10 after all always the risk of being ejected or
trashed.

Bicycle lights are one item that shops in my area are not good at. If
it's a Trek tied shop then their offerings are especially mediocre.

Kinda depends on the bike shops, most of my lights are from Exposure lights
which are admittedly more expensive and upmarket than these, but they are
sold in well bike shops that sell top end stuff, of which there is one very
local.

They Exposure are local ish as well, and where originally only diving
lights, but have moved into MTB lights, where durability power and that the
lights can be repaired, tends to keep customers.

Post by sms

Post by Roger Merriman
At the £45 plus mark I think I’d want a bit more information particularly
for a front light. Ie how close to 2k lumens is it? Gives a beam angle but
is more than that, my two big lights, both Exposure lights, are very much
the same physical light or at least case, and battery plus LED but how it’s
delivered.

Gaciron doesn't appear to be using "Chi-Lumens" but actual lumens, or
close to it (at least not a 5x exaggeration!).
The numbers bear this out with a 6700mAH battery (2x3350mAH 3.63V LG
18650) and two LEDs, presumably 100-110 lumens/watt.

Yes that sounds believable but with very few reviews and certainly none
from trusted sources unlike say even stuff like Magicshine who are in the
same sort of market, but they have managed to get reviews etc.

Considering that’s it’s not a cheap light, I can find equivalent be that in
bricks and mortar or stuff like Magicshine via Amazon or the like.

Post by sms
Beam angle is 125°.

That tells me the beam is wide like all other bike lights. But not how that
light is distributed.

It’s clearly not got bike specific electronics ie has the old have to cycle
through 5 modes, which if your likely to encounter folks in darker areas is
going to get really old very quickly!

My old Exposure light one can dip down to a lower level and it turns off
the spot so the beam shape is also more friendly, and I’ve seen a few
lights with similar over last few years.

Which either is a must have feature or non event depending on your
situation. I also find it triggers folks into doing the same, ie can see
the light intensity and shape changes, even if it’s just them dangling
their hand over the light!

Roger Merriman

[sms]

On 11/21/2024 3:04 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:

<snip>

Post by Roger Merriman
Kinda depends on the bike shops, most of my lights are from Exposure lights
which are admittedly more expensive and upmarket than these, but they are
sold in well bike shops that sell top end stuff, of which there is one very
local.

Sadly, we continue to lose bike shops in my area.

We lost the legendary Cupertino Bike Shop last year due to redevelopment
of the land their shop was located on. They moved to an old paint store
for a little while, but that site is also being redeveloped. They may be
reborn in the future on the ground floor of a new Apple building.

We also lost Mike J.'s second shop closed over seven years ago and the
property owner has still not been able to lease the space at the rent
they want.

We did gain a shop specializing in mountain bikes a few years ago.

We have two large sporting goods chains, REI and Sports Basement that
have good bicycle departments.

Unfortunately, the California Legislature is controlled by real estate
development interests who hate the fact that some parcels are zoned
retail because retail is not the most profitable use of the land. Hence
we are losing a lot of retail stores that were actually profitable.

[AMuzi]

Post by sms
<snip>

Post by Roger Merriman
Kinda depends on the bike shops, most of my lights are
from Exposure lights
which are admittedly more expensive and upmarket than
these, but they are
sold in well bike shops that sell top end stuff, of which
there is one very
local.

Sadly, we continue to lose bike shops in my area.
We lost the legendary Cupertino Bike Shop last year due to
redevelopment of the land their shop was located on. They
moved to an old paint store for a little while, but that
site is also being redeveloped. They may be reborn in the
future on the ground floor of a new Apple building.
We also lost Mike J.'s second shop closed over seven years
ago and the property owner has still not been able to lease
the space at the rent they want.
We did gain a shop specializing in mountain bikes a few
years ago.
We have two large sporting goods chains, REI and Sports
Basement that have good bicycle departments.
Unfortunately, the California Legislature is controlled by
real estate development interests who hate the fact that
some parcels are zoned retail because retail is not the most
profitable use of the land. Hence we are losing a lot of
retail stores that were actually profitable.

It's a larger phenomenon than bay area bicycle stores.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/25/business/the-retail-apocalypse-is-back/index.html

https://www.newsweek.com/thousands-businesses-warn-theyre-risk-closing-1902087

Anyone who reads the financial press daily has seen this
grow for a couple of years.

[sms]

On 11/22/2024 11:05 AM, AMuzi wrote:

<snip>

Anyone who reads the financial press daily has seen this grow for a
couple of years.

If Trump really follows through with huge tariffs bicycle shops will
really be in trouble.

[John B.]

Post by sms
<snip>

Anyone who reads the financial press daily has seen this grow for a
couple of years.

If Trump really follows through with huge tariffs bicycle shops will
really be in trouble.

One might think that the soybean war would teach someone something.
When U.S. tariffs were increased on imports from China, China in turn
increased import tariffs on U.S. goods which resulted in a decrease in
goods purchase from America. U.S. Soybeans sales to China decreased by
more then 50% and Brazil's sales of soybeans to China increased by
60%.

[AMuzi]

Post by John B.

Post by sms
<snip>

Anyone who reads the financial press daily has seen this grow for a
couple of years.

If Trump really follows through with huge tariffs bicycle shops will
really be in trouble.

One might think that the soybean war would teach someone something.
When U.S. tariffs were increased on imports from China, China in turn
increased import tariffs on U.S. goods which resulted in a decrease in
goods purchase from America. U.S. Soybeans sales to China decreased by
more then 50% and Brazil's sales of soybeans to China increased by
60%.

Some yes, some no although generally pathetic if not
damaging. F'rexample why are tubular tires, which we do not
make here, taxed higher than some clinchers? Tens of
thousands of perplexing if not absurd items in the duty
registers already.

[sms]

On 11/23/2024 8:48 PM, John B. wrote:

<snip>

Post by John B.
One might think that the soybean war would teach someone something.
When U.S. tariffs were increased on imports from China, China in turn
increased import tariffs on U.S. goods which resulted in a decrease in
goods purchase from America. U.S. Soybeans sales to China decreased by
more then 50% and Brazil's sales of soybeans to China increased by
60%.

During the previous Trump administration I was talking to a
developer/farmer who sold pistachios and almonds to China. He was also a
hard core Republican. I asked him how the tariffs were working out for
him, and he at least responded "not good." His real money actually comes
from water
<https://sjvsun.com/sunlight/kotr/meet-the-water-baron-you-likely-havent-heard-of/>.

In many cases the tariffs Trump proposes will just result in large
losses of sales of products from China, not increased prices, because
with the tariffs added on the prices will be way too high for most
consumers to even consider the products. Bicycles are more of a
discretionary item so they will be affected a lot. Mobile phones are the
big question mark.

[AMuzi]

Post by sms
<snip>

Post by John B.
One might think that the soybean war would teach someone
something.
When U.S. tariffs were increased on imports from China,
China in turn
increased import tariffs on U.S. goods which resulted in a
decrease in
goods purchase from America. U.S. Soybeans sales to China
decreased by
more then 50% and Brazil's sales of soybeans to China
increased by
60%.

During the previous Trump administration I was talking to a
developer/farmer who sold pistachios and almonds to China.
He was also a hard core Republican. I asked him how the
tariffs were working out for him, and he at least responded
"not good." His real money actually comes from water
<https://sjvsun.com/sunlight/kotr/meet-the-water-baron-you-
likely-havent-heard-of/>.
In many cases the tariffs Trump proposes will just result in
large losses of sales of products from China, not increased
prices, because with the tariffs added on the prices will be
way too high for most consumers to even consider the
products. Bicycles are more of a discretionary item so they
will be affected a lot. Mobile phones are the big question
mark.

Yes, all that is possible but unclear as the details matter
and all the inputs are dynamic and interlinked. I'm not
all-in for proposed policy so far, but then again specifics
have not been forthcoming (which may actually be the point
if negotiation deterrence is the goal. I don't know that)

All that said, regardless of the hue and cry about tariff
changes and prophecies of doom, the current administration
has left all the previous administration's tariffs in place.
Lots of political posturing from many viewpoints, yes, but
no actual US policy or duty rate changes.

[Catrike Ryder]

Post by sms
<snip>

Anyone who reads the financial press daily has seen this grow for a
couple of years.

If Trump really follows through with huge tariffs bicycle shops will
really be in trouble.

It will affect consumers, more, but still not as much a
Biden-inflation has.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

[zen cycle]

Post by Catrike Ryder

Post by sms
<snip>

Anyone who reads the financial press daily has seen this grow for a
couple of years.

If Trump really follows through with huge tariffs bicycle shops will
really be in trouble.

It will affect consumers, more, but still not as much a
Biden-inflation has.

trikerider the tool burps up more right-wing echo chamber pabulum

[Roger Merriman]

Post by zen cycle

Post by Catrike Ryder

Post by sms
<snip>

Anyone who reads the financial press daily has seen this grow for a
couple of years.

If Trump really follows through with huge tariffs bicycle shops will
really be in trouble.

It will affect consumers, more, but still not as much a
Biden-inflation has.

trikerider the tool burps up more right-wing echo chamber pabulum

Related is the, X moving away from mainstream will have consequences for
right wing commentators ie will lack someone to rail against etc.

Roger Merriman

[Catrike Ryder]

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by zen cycle

Post by Catrike Ryder

Post by sms
<snip>

Anyone who reads the financial press daily has seen this grow for a
couple of years.

If Trump really follows through with huge tariffs bicycle shops will
really be in trouble.

It will affect consumers, more, but still not as much a
Biden-inflation has.

trikerider the tool burps up more right-wing echo chamber pabulum

Related is the, X moving away from mainstream will have consequences for
right wing commentators ie will lack someone to rail against etc.
Roger Merriman

There will always be anti-trumpers to rail against, once the gloating
is over.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

[Roger Merriman]

Post by Catrike Ryder

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by zen cycle

Post by Catrike Ryder

Post by sms
<snip>

Anyone who reads the financial press daily has seen this grow for a
couple of years.

If Trump really follows through with huge tariffs bicycle shops will
really be in trouble.

It will affect consumers, more, but still not as much a
Biden-inflation has.

trikerider the tool burps up more right-wing echo chamber pabulum

Related is the, X moving away from mainstream will have consequences for
right wing commentators ie will lack someone to rail against etc.
Roger Merriman

There will always be anti-trumpers to rail against, once the gloating
is over.
--
C'est bon
Soloman

See Truth social or similar ie right wing echo chambers, it’s unlikely X
would be reduced to that, but the less mainstream it becomes the more it
is, and as such it’s point of being diminishes.

After all number of social media platforms have died, Usenet and IRC are
somewhat bucking the trend in that they are not commercial or centralised.
So can linger on.

Roger Merriman

[Catrike Ryder]

Post by Catrike Ryder

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by zen cycle

Post by Catrike Ryder

Post by sms
<snip>

Anyone who reads the financial press daily has seen this grow for a
couple of years.

If Trump really follows through with huge tariffs bicycle shops will
really be in trouble.

It will affect consumers, more, but still not as much a
Biden-inflation has.

trikerider the tool burps up more right-wing echo chamber pabulum

Related is the, X moving away from mainstream will have consequences for
right wing commentators ie will lack someone to rail against etc.
Roger Merriman

There will always be anti-trumpers to rail against, once the gloating
is over.
--
C'est bon
Soloman

See Truth social or similar ie right wing echo chambers, it’s unlikely X
would be reduced to that, but the less mainstream it becomes the more it
is, and as such it’s point of being diminishes.
After all number of social media platforms have died, Usenet and IRC are
somewhat bucking the trend in that they are not commercial or centralised.
So can linger on.
Roger Merriman

Xwitter isn't right wing. It's pretty much uncensored, except to media
outlets.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

[Zen Cycle]

Post by Catrike Ryder

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by Catrike Ryder

Post by Roger Merriman

Post by zen cycle

Post by Catrike Ryder

Post by sms
<snip>

Anyone who reads the financial press daily has seen this grow for a
couple of years.

If Trump really follows through with huge tariffs bicycle shops will
really be in trouble.

It will affect consumers, more, but still not as much a
Biden-inflation has.

trikerider the tool burps up more right-wing echo chamber pabulum

Related is the, X moving away from mainstream will have consequences for
right wing commentators ie will lack someone to rail against etc.
Roger Merriman

There will always be anti-trumpers to rail against, once the gloating
is over.
--
C'est bon
Soloman

See Truth social or similar ie right wing echo chambers, it’s unlikely X
would be reduced to that, but the less mainstream it becomes the more it
is, and as such it’s point of being diminishes.
After all number of social media platforms have died, Usenet and IRC are
somewhat bucking the trend in that they are not commercial or centralised.
So can linger on.
Roger Merriman

Xwitter isn't right wing. It's pretty much uncensored, except to media
outlets.

They haven't banned any right wing media outlets, only left wing, as
well as left wing journalists who dare to criticize musk.

You are such a fucking tool.

Post by Catrike Ryder
--
C'est bon
Soloman

[AMuzi]

Post by sms
<snip>

Post by AMuzi
Anyone who reads the financial press daily has seen this
grow for a couple of years.

If Trump really follows through with huge tariffs bicycle
shops will really be in trouble.

That risk is real, I agree.

But the details and effects are unknown as yet. History
shows examples and counterexamples.

[Roger Merriman]

Post by sms
<snip>

Post by Roger Merriman
Kinda depends on the bike shops, most of my lights are from Exposure lights
which are admittedly more expensive and upmarket than these, but they are
sold in well bike shops that sell top end stuff, of which there is one very
local.

Sadly, we continue to lose bike shops in my area.
We lost the legendary Cupertino Bike Shop last year due to redevelopment
of the land their shop was located on. They moved to an old paint store
for a little while, but that site is also being redeveloped. They may be
reborn in the future on the ground floor of a new Apple building.
We also lost Mike J.'s second shop closed over seven years ago and the
property owner has still not been able to lease the space at the rent
they want.
We did gain a shop specializing in mountain bikes a few years ago.
We have two large sporting goods chains, REI and Sports Basement that
have good bicycle departments.
Unfortunately, the California Legislature is controlled by real estate
development interests who hate the fact that some parcels are zoned
retail because retail is not the most profitable use of the land. Hence
we are losing a lot of retail stores that were actually profitable.

I believe that the USA is much more controlling with zoning restrictions ie
where properties can be industrial/commercial/domestic etc.

I believe the Bay Area is approximately same size as London, like New York
possibly same sort of density ie mid teens populations (millions) and
density/spread ie swallowing neighbouring towns/cities.

I live way out in the country few hundred years ago, now definitely London
even the areas not under London political control.

Roger Merriman

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by sms
<snip>

Post by Roger Merriman
Can’t imagine is much financial value in any links here at least! With a
handful of posters, and eyes on the links!

LOL, Frank is obsessed with the fact that decades ago I had an Amazon
Affiliate account. I think that I made a total of $25 from it!

I'm not obsessed, Steve. An obsessed person posts in a particular way
over and over and over, as we've seen a tricycle rider do. I believe
this is the first time I've mentioned your admission of "guerilla
marketing" in at least five years.

And so your guerilla marketing didn't work financially for you? That
doesn't mean your recommendations were or are unbiased and correct.

[cyclintom]

Post by sms
<snip>

Can?t imagine is much financial value in any links here at least! With a
handful of posters, and eyes on the links!

LOL, Frank is obsessed with the fact that decades ago I had an Amazon
Affiliate account. I think that I made a total of $25 from it!

It sort of goes back to the online only is fine, but some products are
better served with bricks and mortar, or companies that have good customer
experience and so on, my rear light on the Gravel bike is a Amazon special
etc buts it?s only 10 after all always the risk of being ejected or
trashed.

Bicycle lights are one item that shops in my area are not good at. If
it's a Trek tied shop then their offerings are especially mediocre.

At the 45 plus mark I think I?d want a bit more information particularly
for a front light. Ie how close to 2k lumens is it? Gives a beam angle but
is more than that, my two big lights, both Exposure lights, are very much
the same physical light or at least case, and battery plus LED but how it?s
delivered.

Gaciron doesn't appear to be using "Chi-Lumens" but actual lumens, or
close to it (at least not a 5x exaggeration!).
The numbers bear this out with a 6700mAH battery (2x3350mAH 3.63V LG
18650) and two LEDs, presumably 100-110 lumens/watt.
Beam angle is 125.

Teven, remember that Frank is a socialist and wants his cut from your work.

[sms]

On 11/15/2024 2:44 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:

<snip>

Post by Roger Merriman
I think I’d be wary of a brand I don’t know and well Aliexpress in terms of
if something goes wrong, and just the unknown, particularly as these are
dirt cheap but enough of value that I’d think about kit at that price.

The Gaciron bicycle lights have been widely reviewed.

<https://www.google.com/search?q=V9DP-1800+review+test>
<https://www.google.com/search?q=V9DP-2000+review+test>

FWIW, I also have had two Lezyne front lights that failed. One because
of the Micro-USB charge connector, and one with the batteries no longer
taking a charge. Lezyne was no help in terms of repair of the charge port.

[andresmuro]

I've gotten multiple things from Ali Express. Most of the stuff that I
get works great and is inexpensive especially for bicycles. Once in a
while I get stuff that does not work but I have no problem returning
stuff and getting refunded.

Andres

--

[Shadow]

Post by andresmuro
I've gotten multiple things from Ali Express. Most of the stuff that I
get works great and is inexpensive especially for bicycles. Once in a
while I get stuff that does not work but I have no problem returning
stuff and getting refunded.

I've bought through them a couple of times. Maybe I was lucky.
Dirt cheap, excellent quality. Never had to return anything, though
they do say they will reimburse you for anything that comes with a
defect.
PS Nothing bike related. MP3 players and cheap shoes.
Lula passed a temporary law that anything under U$ 50 was tax
free. Congress vetoed it a couple of months ago, so now there's a 100%
tax (AKA tariff). Might be cheaper to buy from smugglers than direct
from China. Smugglers don't pay tax.
[]'s

[andresmuro]

Post by Shadow
Lula passed a temporary law that anything under U$ 50 was tax
free. Congress vetoed it a couple of months ago, so now there's a 100%
tax (AKA tariff). Might be cheaper to buy from smugglers than direct
from China. Smugglers don't pay tax.
[]'s

Ahh, you are in Brazil. I'm in the US. No tax yet, but Trump is
proposing a tariff on Chinese goods. I will have to load up on Ali
Express before January 9th.

Andres

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[AMuzi]

Post by andresmuro

    Lula passed a temporary law that anything under U$ 50
was tax
free. Congress vetoed it a couple of months ago, so now
there's a 100%
tax (AKA tariff). Might be cheaper to buy from smugglers
than direct
from China. Smugglers don't pay tax.
    []'s

Ahh, you are in Brazil. I'm in the US. No tax yet, but Trump is
proposing a tariff on Chinese goods. I will have to load up
on Ali
Express before January 9th.
Andres
--

Present US policy is to not charge duty on 'personal
shipments' under $800. Also the CCP subsidizes postage for
domestic exporters so my competitor can mail a standard rate
air packet here for $1.20 and you pay no duty. (their Post
drops ULDs into the US Postal System who bears the cost of
delivery here; see Int's Postal Treaties).

For a US importer, there's the current ocean rates, broker
fees, inland, duty etc. Makes competition against the CCP
machine very difficult. I'm paying $46.50 for a flat rate
packet to EU or SE Asia.

[Rolf Mantel]

Post by andresmuro

    Lula passed a temporary law that anything under U$ 50 was tax
free. Congress vetoed it a couple of months ago, so now there's a 100%
tax (AKA tariff). Might be cheaper to buy from smugglers than direct
from China. Smugglers don't pay tax.
    []'s

Ahh, you are in Brazil. I'm in the US. No tax yet, but Trump is
proposing a tariff on Chinese goods. I will have to load up on Ali
Express before January 9th.

Present US policy is to not charge duty on 'personal shipments' under
$800. Also the CCP subsidizes postage for domestic exporters so my
competitor can mail a standard rate air packet here for $1.20 and you
pay no duty. (their Post drops ULDs into the US Postal System who bears
the cost of delivery here; see Int's Postal Treaties).

In the EU, the 'personal shipments' duty exemption for China is up to
€200 (I'm not aware whether the limit of the exemption varies by sending
country); there are political discusssions to drop this exemption.
There are also international political discussions to remove China from
the international "reduced shipping rate for poor countries", possible
replacing the current country list by a "GDP per capita" rule.

[Roger Merriman]

Post by Shadow

Post by andresmuro
I've gotten multiple things from Ali Express. Most of the stuff that I
get works great and is inexpensive especially for bicycles. Once in a
while I get stuff that does not work but I have no problem returning
stuff and getting refunded.

I've bought through them a couple of times. Maybe I was lucky.
Dirt cheap, excellent quality. Never had to return anything, though
they do say they will reimburse you for anything that comes with a
defect.
PS Nothing bike related. MP3 players and cheap shoes.
Lula passed a temporary law that anything under U$ 50 was tax
free. Congress vetoed it a couple of months ago, so now there's a 100%
tax (AKA tariff). Might be cheaper to buy from smugglers than direct
from China. Smugglers don't pay tax.
[]'s

I’ve not though that in its self wouldn’t be the sticking point, more
buying a unknown bit of kit for decent price, some folks buy Shimano etc
chains etc, for that sort of thing I have a bike shop within 5mins.

Roger Merriman