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cyclintom
2025-03-07 16:52:27 UTC
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Arizona has no gun laws at all. All of the surrounding states have VERY mild gun laws. Often nothing more than limiting concealed carry. Arizona has 1/5th the crime from home burglaries and such. Frank couldn't care less. He believes in inventing his own reality
AMuzi
2025-03-07 17:32:28 UTC
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Arizona has no gun laws at all. All of the surrounding states have VERY mild gun laws. Often nothing more than limiting concealed carry. Arizona has 1/5th the crime from home burglaries and such. Frank couldn't care less. He believes in inventing his own reality
This week:

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/arizona-republican-could-lose-office-after-pulling-a-gun-in-road-rage-incident/ar-AA1AeT0u
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Catrike Ryder
2025-03-07 18:05:08 UTC
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Arizona has no gun laws at all. All of the surrounding states have VERY mild gun laws. Often nothing more than limiting concealed carry. Arizona has 1/5th the crime from home burglaries and such. Frank couldn't care less. He believes in inventing his own reality
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/arizona-republican-could-lose-office-after-pulling-a-gun-in-road-rage-incident/ar-AA1AeT0u
Carrying a gun is not the right time to act like a moron. On the other
hand, there's likely more to the story than what MSN and the
"nonprofit news" is telling.

I'm not inclined to look into "Votebeat, nonprofit news" agenda, but I
already know where MSN.Com is coming from.

I do look at some nonprofit news outfits, but I always factor in their
agenda. I've never come across one that doesn't have one.

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cyclintom
2025-03-07 20:36:07 UTC
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Arizona has no gun laws at all. All of the surrounding states have VERY mild gun laws. Often nothing more than limiting concealed carry. Arizona has 1/5th the crime from home burglaries and such. Frank couldn't care less. He believes in inventing his own reality
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/arizona-republican-could-lose-office-after-pulling-a-gun-in-road-rage-incident/ar-AA1AeT0u
So idle threats are changes in government? That article is from MSNBC who haven't the least credibility. The last time I was down to Arizona I went down to a gun show. It was held in an airplane hanger, a LARGE airplane hanger, and it was literally elbow to elbow.
AMuzi
2025-03-07 20:53:19 UTC
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Arizona has no gun laws at all. All of the surrounding states have VERY mild gun laws. Often nothing more than limiting concealed carry. Arizona has 1/5th the crime from home burglaries and such. Frank couldn't care less. He believes in inventing his own reality
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/arizona-republican-could-lose-office-after-pulling-a-gun-in-road-rage-incident/ar-AA1AeT0u
So idle threats are changes in government? That article is from MSNBC who haven't the least credibility. The last time I was down to Arizona I went down to a gun show. It was held in an airplane hanger, a LARGE airplane hanger, and it was literally elbow to elbow.
Sheesh. Arrests are public record.

That site came up first in a search, probably because Mr
Gates understands SEO better than local TeeVee outlets such as:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2024/10/31/navajo-county-recorder-candidate-arrested/75944560007/
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Frank Krygowski
2025-03-07 21:28:07 UTC
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https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2024/10/31/navajo-
county-recorder-candidate-arrested/75944560007/
What a fun story!

I guess an armed society is _not_ necessarily a polite society!
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AMuzi
2025-03-07 21:53:57 UTC
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https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/
arizona/2024/10/31/navajo- county-recorder-candidate-
arrested/75944560007/
What a fun story!
I guess an armed society is _not_ necessarily a polite society!
We are a large country. We have one of everything.

Because the incidents are not even remotely on topic I do
not link the absolute batshit crazy, pernicious, savage,
inexplicable, pathological human behaviors I see every
damned morning. People suck generally. Nice ones ought to be
better appreciated.
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Frank Krygowski
2025-03-08 02:48:34 UTC
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https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/ arizona/2024/10/31/
navajo- county-recorder-candidate- arrested/75944560007/
What a fun story!
I guess an armed society is _not_ necessarily a polite society!
We are a large country. We have one of everything.
Which is why, unlike some others here, I give much more credence to data
than to anecdotes.
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Catrike Ryder
2025-03-08 09:18:40 UTC
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 21:48:34 -0500, Frank Krygowski
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https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/ arizona/2024/10/31/
navajo- county-recorder-candidate- arrested/75944560007/
What a fun story!
I guess an armed society is _not_ necessarily a polite society!
We are a large country. We have one of everything.
Which is why, unlike some others here, I give much more credence to data
than to anecdotes.
You seek out data almost certainly biased and collected by someone
with an agenda you and your masters share. You use the data to justify
what you've been taught to believe and to try to convince others. That
may have worked when you had a bunch of captive students, now, out in
the real world, you're unable to convince anyone.

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Catrike Ryder
2025-03-07 22:13:09 UTC
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 16:28:07 -0500, Frank Krygowski
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https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2024/10/31/navajo-
county-recorder-candidate-arrested/75944560007/
What a fun story!
I guess an armed society is _not_ necessarily a polite society!
Oh, but it can be. I remember not to long ago wandering through Wal
Mart wearing my "I stand with Israel" shirt and a creepy looking guy
stopped and stared at it looking like he might comment on it. Then he
looked up at my Smith and Wesson cap, turned and walked away. I didn't
even have a gun. I don't take a gun to Wal Mart. The cap actually
belongs to my wife who has the S&W gun.

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cyclintom
2025-03-07 20:30:49 UTC
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Arizona has no gun laws at all. All of the surrounding states have VERY mild gun laws. Often nothing more than limiting concealed carry. Arizona has 1/5th the crime from home burglaries and such. Frank couldn't care less. He believes in inventing his own reality
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