Angry God Punishes Red States with Tornadoes, Their Hillbilly Governor Attends Republican Fundraiser In Alabama

[Adrian Dittman]

If God didn't hate red state Christians, why are they always being hit by
devestating hurricanes and tornadoes?

EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS
Tue, June 20, 2023 at 5:58 p.m. EDT·2 min read


JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves traveled to Alabama
for a Republican fundraising event as people in his state were still
reeling from back-to-back tornadoes that killed one person, injured
dozens and destroyed homes and businesses, and in the midst of lingering
power outages from severe thunderstorms.

Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey and Reeves headlined a Republican Governors
Association fundraiser on Monday at the Grand Bohemian Hotel in
Birmingham, according to an invitation obtained Tuesday by The Associated
Press. Ticket prices ranged from $5,000 for one person to $50,000 for
four people.

Reeves is policy chairperson for the RGA and is seeking a second term as
governor this year. His campaign manager Elliott Husbands said in
response to questions Tuesday that the event was planned long ago, and
money raised there was not earmarked for any specific campaign. Kentucky,
Louisiana and Mississippi have the only governor’s races this year.

Reeves has stayed in contact with Mississippi Emergency Management Agency
leaders since storms started pounding the state last week, including
during his Alabama trip that lasted about three hours, Husbands said.

“The Governor also has personally communicated with local leaders in the
affected areas,” Husbands said. "In addition, he has already said
publicly he is going to be on the ground in the impacted areas tomorrow."

Brandon Presley, Mississippi's northern district public service
commissioner, is the Democratic nominee for governor. His campaign
communications director, Michael Beyer, on Tuesday criticized Reeves for
attending the Republican Governors Association event.

“It is no surprise to see Tate Reeves leave the state for a fundraiser in
the middle of storm recovery — when given a choice between rubbing elbows
with the wealthy and well-connected or speaking face-to-face with
Mississippians who have had their lives upended by this storm, he will
always go after the money," Beyer said. "If it would mean furthering
himself, Tate Reeves would go to Antarctica for a campaign check.”

Reeves did not fly on the state airplane to the fundraiser, Husbands
said.

Thousands of people have been sweating without air-conditioning since
severe thunderstorms knocked out electrical service last week in central
Mississippi.

A tornado that struck Jasper County in eastern Mississippi overnight
Sunday to Monday killed one person, injured nearly two dozen people and
damaged more than 70 homes. Later Monday, another tornado struck coastal
Jackson County. It injured six people and damaged about 100 structures.
The city of Moss Point was hardest hit.

Reeves said Tuesday on social media: “We’ll be here for the long haul to
support these communities and help them recover."

[AMuzi]

Post by Adrian Dittman
If God didn't hate red state Christians, why are they always being hit by
devestating hurricanes and tornadoes?
EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS
Tue, June 20, 2023 at 5:58 p.m. EDT·2 min read
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves traveled to Alabama
for a Republican fundraising event as people in his state were still
reeling from back-to-back tornadoes that killed one person, injured
dozens and destroyed homes and businesses, and in the midst of lingering
power outages from severe thunderstorms.
Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey and Reeves headlined a Republican Governors
Association fundraiser on Monday at the Grand Bohemian Hotel in
Birmingham, according to an invitation obtained Tuesday by The Associated
Press. Ticket prices ranged from $5,000 for one person to $50,000 for
four people.
Reeves is policy chairperson for the RGA and is seeking a second term as
governor this year. His campaign manager Elliott Husbands said in
response to questions Tuesday that the event was planned long ago, and
money raised there was not earmarked for any specific campaign. Kentucky,
Louisiana and Mississippi have the only governor’s races this year.
Reeves has stayed in contact with Mississippi Emergency Management Agency
leaders since storms started pounding the state last week, including
during his Alabama trip that lasted about three hours, Husbands said.
“The Governor also has personally communicated with local leaders in the
affected areas,” Husbands said. "In addition, he has already said
publicly he is going to be on the ground in the impacted areas tomorrow."
Brandon Presley, Mississippi's northern district public service
commissioner, is the Democratic nominee for governor. His campaign
communications director, Michael Beyer, on Tuesday criticized Reeves for
attending the Republican Governors Association event.
“It is no surprise to see Tate Reeves leave the state for a fundraiser in
the middle of storm recovery — when given a choice between rubbing elbows
with the wealthy and well-connected or speaking face-to-face with
Mississippians who have had their lives upended by this storm, he will
always go after the money," Beyer said. "If it would mean furthering
himself, Tate Reeves would go to Antarctica for a campaign check.”
Reeves did not fly on the state airplane to the fundraiser, Husbands
said.
Thousands of people have been sweating without air-conditioning since
severe thunderstorms knocked out electrical service last week in central
Mississippi.
A tornado that struck Jasper County in eastern Mississippi overnight
Sunday to Monday killed one person, injured nearly two dozen people and
damaged more than 70 homes. Later Monday, another tornado struck coastal
Jackson County. It injured six people and damaged about 100 structures.
The city of Moss Point was hardest hit.
Reeves said Tuesday on social media: “We’ll be here for the long haul to
support these communities and help them recover."

You're welcome to your own opinion but you are woefully
uninformed on this subject.

As long as I have been alive, Mississippi has enjoyed the
largest proportion of black citizens among the States:

https://blackdemographics.com/population/black-state-population/

One might say the almighty intended Montana but missed.

[cyclintom]

Post by AMuzi
You're welcome to your own opinion but you are woefully
uninformed on this subject.
As long as I have been alive, Mississippi has enjoyed the
https://blackdemographics.com/population/black-state-population/
One might say the almighty intended Montana but missed.

California used to have a large proportion of blacks too until Obama and Biden provided Gavin Loathsome with illegals to vote for him.

[AMuzi]

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi
You're welcome to your own opinion but you are woefully
uninformed on this subject.
As long as I have been alive, Mississippi has enjoyed the
https://blackdemographics.com/population/black-state-population/
One might say the almighty intended Montana but missed.

California used to have a large proportion of blacks too until Obama and Biden provided Gavin Loathsome with illegals to vote for him.

California has historically been below average in proportion
of black citizens. Peaked at about 7-1/2% 45 years ago, now
roughly 6%. You should listen to some black radio hosts in
California; some are very well informed and speak on this
subject frequently.

In the current environment with California being a
net-emigration State, people ascribe all sorts of effects to
all sorts of policy decisions. But the facts remain for
whatever reason.

[cyclintom]

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi
You're welcome to your own opinion but you are woefully
uninformed on this subject.
As long as I have been alive, Mississippi has enjoyed the
https://blackdemographics.com/population/black-state-population/
One might say the almighty intended Montana but missed.

California used to have a large proportion of blacks too until Obama and Biden provided Gavin Loathsome with illegals to vote for him.

California has historically been below average in proportion
of black citizens. Peaked at about 7-1/2% 45 years ago, now
roughly 6%. You should listen to some black radio hosts in
California; some are very well informed and speak on this
subject frequently.
In the current environment with California being a
net-emigration State, people ascribe all sorts of effects to
all sorts of policy decisions. But the facts remain for
whatever reason.

Andrew, you're speaking of the state as a whole. This was be3cause ot was settled early by white farmers and ranchers. In the cities it was quite large black populations.

[AMuzi]

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi
You're welcome to your own opinion but you are woefully
uninformed on this subject.
As long as I have been alive, Mississippi has enjoyed the
https://blackdemographics.com/population/black-state-population/
One might say the almighty intended Montana but missed.

California used to have a large proportion of blacks too until Obama and Biden provided Gavin Loathsome with illegals to vote for him.

California has historically been below average in proportion
of black citizens. Peaked at about 7-1/2% 45 years ago, now
roughly 6%. You should listen to some black radio hosts in
California; some are very well informed and speak on this
subject frequently.
In the current environment with California being a
net-emigration State, people ascribe all sorts of effects to
all sorts of policy decisions. But the facts remain for
whatever reason.

Andrew, you're speaking of the state as a whole. This was be3cause ot was settled early by white farmers and ranchers. In the cities it was quite large black populations.

One neighborhood or another, sure. Just like Italian
neighborhoods or Sicilian neighborhoods. But not true for
'California cities' altogether, or in particular.

San Francisco is below CA average and way below US average
at about 5-1/2%:

https://statisticalatlas.com/place/California/San-Francisco/Race-and-Ethnicity

Oakland is above average in both measurements at ~25%:
https://statisticalatlas.com/place/California/San-Francisco/Race-and-Ethnicity

while smaller population overall than SF (and nowhere near
Chicago's 33%).

Los Angeles is also a bit above CA average but well under US
average at 9%:

https://statisticalatlas.com/place/California/Los-Angeles/Race-and-Ethnicity

You probably notice neighborhoods near you with mostly
Chinese or mostly Italian or mostly Vietnamese, or black or
whatever. I'm sure they exist, as they do everywhere, but in
the aggregate California remains well below US average in
that regard and AFAIK always has, besides declining further
in recent decades.

[zen cycle]

Post by Adrian Dittman
If God didn't hate red state Christians, why are they always being hit by
devestating hurricanes and tornadoes?
EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS
Tue, June 20, 2023 at 5:58 p.m. EDT·2 min read
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves traveled to Alabama
for a Republican fundraising event as people in his state were still
reeling from back-to-back tornadoes that killed one person, injured
dozens and destroyed homes and businesses, and in the midst of lingering
power outages from severe thunderstorms.
Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey and Reeves headlined a Republican Governors
Association fundraiser on Monday at the Grand Bohemian Hotel in
Birmingham, according to an invitation obtained Tuesday by The Associated
Press. Ticket prices ranged from $5,000 for one person to $50,000 for
four people.
Reeves is policy chairperson for the RGA and is seeking a second term as
governor this year. His campaign manager Elliott Husbands said in
response to questions Tuesday that the event was planned long ago, and
money raised there was not earmarked for any specific campaign. Kentucky,
Louisiana and Mississippi have the only governor’s races this year.
Reeves has stayed in contact with Mississippi Emergency Management Agency
leaders since storms started pounding the state last week, including
during his Alabama trip that lasted about three hours, Husbands said.
“The Governor also has personally communicated with local leaders in the
affected areas,” Husbands said. "In addition, he has already said
publicly he is going to be on the ground in the impacted areas tomorrow."
Brandon Presley, Mississippi's northern district public service
commissioner, is the Democratic nominee for governor. His campaign
communications director, Michael Beyer, on Tuesday criticized Reeves for
attending the Republican Governors Association event.
“It is no surprise to see Tate Reeves leave the state for a fundraiser in
the middle of storm recovery — when given a choice between rubbing elbows
with the wealthy and well-connected or speaking face-to-face with
Mississippians who have had their lives upended by this storm, he will
always go after the money," Beyer said. "If it would mean furthering
himself, Tate Reeves would go to Antarctica for a campaign check.”
Reeves did not fly on the state airplane to the fundraiser, Husbands
said.
Thousands of people have been sweating without air-conditioning since
severe thunderstorms knocked out electrical service last week in central
Mississippi.
A tornado that struck Jasper County in eastern Mississippi overnight
Sunday to Monday killed one person, injured nearly two dozen people and
damaged more than 70 homes. Later Monday, another tornado struck coastal
Jackson County. It injured six people and damaged about 100 structures.
The city of Moss Point was hardest hit.
Reeves said Tuesday on social media: “We’ll be here for the long haul to
support these communities and help them recover."

You're welcome to your own opinion but you are woefully uninformed on
this subject.
As long as I have been alive, Mississippi has enjoyed the largest
https://blackdemographics.com/population/black-state-population/

To that point, The town of Moss Point referenced in the OP is >70% black

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moss_Point,_Mississippi#Demographics

One might say the almighty intended Montana but missed.

Or one might say the natural disasters against the poor folk of Moss
Point and the wildfires in the liberal elite sections of LA score points
for the christian nationalists.

[cyclintom]

Post by Adrian Dittman
If God didn't hate red state Christians, why are they always being hit by
devestating hurricanes and tornadoes?
EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS
Tue, June 20, 2023 at 5:58 p.m. EDT?2 min read
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) ? Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves traveled to Alabama
for a Republican fundraising event as people in his state were still
reeling from back-to-back tornadoes that killed one person, injured
dozens and destroyed homes and businesses, and in the midst of lingering
power outages from severe thunderstorms.
Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey and Reeves headlined a Republican Governors
Association fundraiser on Monday at the Grand Bohemian Hotel in
Birmingham, according to an invitation obtained Tuesday by The Associated
Press. Ticket prices ranged from $5,000 for one person to $50,000 for
four people.
Reeves is policy chairperson for the RGA and is seeking a second term as
governor this year. His campaign manager Elliott Husbands said in
response to questions Tuesday that the event was planned long ago, and
money raised there was not earmarked for any specific campaign. Kentucky,
Louisiana and Mississippi have the only governor?s races this year.
Reeves has stayed in contact with Mississippi Emergency Management Agency
leaders since storms started pounding the state last week, including
during his Alabama trip that lasted about three hours, Husbands said.
?The Governor also has personally communicated with local leaders in the
affected areas,? Husbands said. "In addition, he has already said
publicly he is going to be on the ground in the impacted areas tomorrow."
Brandon Presley, Mississippi's northern district public service
commissioner, is the Democratic nominee for governor. His campaign
communications director, Michael Beyer, on Tuesday criticized Reeves for
attending the Republican Governors Association event.
?It is no surprise to see Tate Reeves leave the state for a fundraiser in
the middle of storm recovery ? when given a choice between rubbing elbows
with the wealthy and well-connected or speaking face-to-face with
Mississippians who have had their lives upended by this storm, he will
always go after the money," Beyer said. "If it would mean furthering
himself, Tate Reeves would go to Antarctica for a campaign check.?
Reeves did not fly on the state airplane to the fundraiser, Husbands
said.
Thousands of people have been sweating without air-conditioning since
severe thunderstorms knocked out electrical service last week in central
Mississippi.
A tornado that struck Jasper County in eastern Mississippi overnight
Sunday to Monday killed one person, injured nearly two dozen people and
damaged more than 70 homes. Later Monday, another tornado struck coastal
Jackson County. It injured six people and damaged about 100 structures.
The city of Moss Point was hardest hit.
Reeves said Tuesday on social media: ?We?ll be here for the long haul to
support these communities and help them recover."

Tewll us when was the last time that Pennsylvania or Ohio were hit with hurricanes or tornados?

[AMuzi]

Post by cyclintom

Post by Adrian Dittman
If God didn't hate red state Christians, why are they always being hit by
devestating hurricanes and tornadoes?
EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS
Tue, June 20, 2023 at 5:58 p.m. EDT?2 min read
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) ? Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves traveled to Alabama
for a Republican fundraising event as people in his state were still
reeling from back-to-back tornadoes that killed one person, injured
dozens and destroyed homes and businesses, and in the midst of lingering
power outages from severe thunderstorms.
Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey and Reeves headlined a Republican Governors
Association fundraiser on Monday at the Grand Bohemian Hotel in
Birmingham, according to an invitation obtained Tuesday by The Associated
Press. Ticket prices ranged from $5,000 for one person to $50,000 for
four people.
Reeves is policy chairperson for the RGA and is seeking a second term as
governor this year. His campaign manager Elliott Husbands said in
response to questions Tuesday that the event was planned long ago, and
money raised there was not earmarked for any specific campaign. Kentucky,
Louisiana and Mississippi have the only governor?s races this year.
Reeves has stayed in contact with Mississippi Emergency Management Agency
leaders since storms started pounding the state last week, including
during his Alabama trip that lasted about three hours, Husbands said.
?The Governor also has personally communicated with local leaders in the
affected areas,? Husbands said. "In addition, he has already said
publicly he is going to be on the ground in the impacted areas tomorrow."
Brandon Presley, Mississippi's northern district public service
commissioner, is the Democratic nominee for governor. His campaign
communications director, Michael Beyer, on Tuesday criticized Reeves for
attending the Republican Governors Association event.
?It is no surprise to see Tate Reeves leave the state for a fundraiser in
the middle of storm recovery ? when given a choice between rubbing elbows
with the wealthy and well-connected or speaking face-to-face with
Mississippians who have had their lives upended by this storm, he will
always go after the money," Beyer said. "If it would mean furthering
himself, Tate Reeves would go to Antarctica for a campaign check.?
Reeves did not fly on the state airplane to the fundraiser, Husbands
said.
Thousands of people have been sweating without air-conditioning since
severe thunderstorms knocked out electrical service last week in central
Mississippi.
A tornado that struck Jasper County in eastern Mississippi overnight
Sunday to Monday killed one person, injured nearly two dozen people and
damaged more than 70 homes. Later Monday, another tornado struck coastal
Jackson County. It injured six people and damaged about 100 structures.
The city of Moss Point was hardest hit.
Reeves said Tuesday on social media: ?We?ll be here for the long haul to
support these communities and help them recover."

Tewll us when was the last time that Pennsylvania or Ohio were hit with hurricanes or tornados?

In 2024, Ohio broke the previous record (62) with 74
tornadoes for the year.

[cyclintom]

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by Adrian Dittman
If God didn't hate red state Christians, why are they always being hit by
devestating hurricanes and tornadoes?
EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS
Tue, June 20, 2023 at 5:58 p.m. EDT?2 min read
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) ? Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves traveled to Alabama
for a Republican fundraising event as people in his state were still
reeling from back-to-back tornadoes that killed one person, injured
dozens and destroyed homes and businesses, and in the midst of lingering
power outages from severe thunderstorms.
Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey and Reeves headlined a Republican Governors
Association fundraiser on Monday at the Grand Bohemian Hotel in
Birmingham, according to an invitation obtained Tuesday by The Associated
Press. Ticket prices ranged from $5,000 for one person to $50,000 for
four people.
Reeves is policy chairperson for the RGA and is seeking a second term as
governor this year. His campaign manager Elliott Husbands said in
response to questions Tuesday that the event was planned long ago, and
money raised there was not earmarked for any specific campaign. Kentucky,
Louisiana and Mississippi have the only governor?s races this year.
Reeves has stayed in contact with Mississippi Emergency Management Agency
leaders since storms started pounding the state last week, including
during his Alabama trip that lasted about three hours, Husbands said.
?The Governor also has personally communicated with local leaders in the
affected areas,? Husbands said. "In addition, he has already said
publicly he is going to be on the ground in the impacted areas tomorrow."
Brandon Presley, Mississippi's northern district public service
commissioner, is the Democratic nominee for governor. His campaign
communications director, Michael Beyer, on Tuesday criticized Reeves for
attending the Republican Governors Association event.
?It is no surprise to see Tate Reeves leave the state for a fundraiser in
the middle of storm recovery ? when given a choice between rubbing elbows
with the wealthy and well-connected or speaking face-to-face with
Mississippians who have had their lives upended by this storm, he will
always go after the money," Beyer said. "If it would mean furthering
himself, Tate Reeves would go to Antarctica for a campaign check.?
Reeves did not fly on the state airplane to the fundraiser, Husbands
said.
Thousands of people have been sweating without air-conditioning since
severe thunderstorms knocked out electrical service last week in central
Mississippi.
A tornado that struck Jasper County in eastern Mississippi overnight
Sunday to Monday killed one person, injured nearly two dozen people and
damaged more than 70 homes. Later Monday, another tornado struck coastal
Jackson County. It injured six people and damaged about 100 structures.
The city of Moss Point was hardest hit.
Reeves said Tuesday on social media: ?We?ll be here for the long haul to
support these communities and help them recover."

Tewll us when was the last time that Pennsylvania or Ohio were hit with hurricanes or tornados?

In 2024, Ohio broke the previous record (62) with 74
tornadoes for the year.

We have tornados here in California too. With the same results.

[AMuzi]

Post by cyclintom

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom

Post by Adrian Dittman
If God didn't hate red state Christians, why are they always being hit by
devestating hurricanes and tornadoes?
EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS
Tue, June 20, 2023 at 5:58 p.m. EDT?2 min read
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) ? Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves traveled to Alabama
for a Republican fundraising event as people in his state were still
reeling from back-to-back tornadoes that killed one person, injured
dozens and destroyed homes and businesses, and in the midst of lingering
power outages from severe thunderstorms.
Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey and Reeves headlined a Republican Governors
Association fundraiser on Monday at the Grand Bohemian Hotel in
Birmingham, according to an invitation obtained Tuesday by The Associated
Press. Ticket prices ranged from $5,000 for one person to $50,000 for
four people.
Reeves is policy chairperson for the RGA and is seeking a second term as
governor this year. His campaign manager Elliott Husbands said in
response to questions Tuesday that the event was planned long ago, and
money raised there was not earmarked for any specific campaign. Kentucky,
Louisiana and Mississippi have the only governor?s races this year.
Reeves has stayed in contact with Mississippi Emergency Management Agency
leaders since storms started pounding the state last week, including
during his Alabama trip that lasted about three hours, Husbands said.
?The Governor also has personally communicated with local leaders in the
affected areas,? Husbands said. "In addition, he has already said
publicly he is going to be on the ground in the impacted areas tomorrow."
Brandon Presley, Mississippi's northern district public service
commissioner, is the Democratic nominee for governor. His campaign
communications director, Michael Beyer, on Tuesday criticized Reeves for
attending the Republican Governors Association event.
?It is no surprise to see Tate Reeves leave the state for a fundraiser in
the middle of storm recovery ? when given a choice between rubbing elbows
with the wealthy and well-connected or speaking face-to-face with
Mississippians who have had their lives upended by this storm, he will
always go after the money," Beyer said. "If it would mean furthering
himself, Tate Reeves would go to Antarctica for a campaign check.?
Reeves did not fly on the state airplane to the fundraiser, Husbands
said.
Thousands of people have been sweating without air-conditioning since
severe thunderstorms knocked out electrical service last week in central
Mississippi.
A tornado that struck Jasper County in eastern Mississippi overnight
Sunday to Monday killed one person, injured nearly two dozen people and
damaged more than 70 homes. Later Monday, another tornado struck coastal
Jackson County. It injured six people and damaged about 100 structures.
The city of Moss Point was hardest hit.
Reeves said Tuesday on social media: ?We?ll be here for the long haul to
support these communities and help them recover."

Tewll us when was the last time that Pennsylvania or Ohio were hit with hurricanes or tornados?

In 2024, Ohio broke the previous record (62) with 74
tornadoes for the year.

We have tornados here in California too. With the same results.

OK, I'll bite.

If you knew that already, why did you ask?

"[Tell] us when was the last time that Pennsylvania or Ohio
were hit with hurricanes or tornados?"

[Jeff Liebermann]

Post by cyclintom
Tewll us when was the last time that Pennsylvania or Ohio were hit with hurricanes or tornados?

List of Pennsylvania Hurricanes:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pennsylvania_hurricanes>
Most recent hurricane was Ida on Sept 1, 2021.

Ohio has tornadoes instead of hurricanes:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ohio_tornadoes>
Most recent tornado was Apr 2, 2024.

California has earthquakes:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_California>
Most recent noteable earthquake was 6.4 in Ferndale on Dec 20, 2022.

[cyclintom]

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by cyclintom
Tewll us when was the last time that Pennsylvania or Ohio were hit with hurricanes or tornados?

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pennsylvania_hurricanes>
Most recent hurricane was Ida on Sept 1, 2021.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ohio_tornadoes>
Most recent tornado was Apr 2, 2024.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_California>
Most recent noteable earthquake was 6.4 in Ferndale on Dec 20, 2022.

Jeffg, I know it is bery painful for you but when a hurricane gets that far inland it is nothing more than rain and mild wind.

Tell me what you EVER knew about tornadoes in Ohio. It is the same sort of tornadoes we get in California.

[Jeff Liebermann]

Post by cyclintom

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by cyclintom
Tewll us when was the last time that Pennsylvania or Ohio were hit with hurricanes or tornados?

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pennsylvania_hurricanes>
Most recent hurricane was Ida on Sept 1, 2021.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ohio_tornadoes>
Most recent tornado was Apr 2, 2024.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_California>
Most recent noteable earthquake was 6.4 in Ferndale on Dec 20, 2022.

Jeffg, I know it is bery painful for you but when a hurricane gets that far inland it is nothing more than rain and mild wind.

Nope. You asked for the last hurricane and didn't specify a minimum
force level to qualify. I assumed that since 74-95 mph (119-153 km/h)
sustained winds is the minimum wind speed to be classified a
hurricane, anything listed on the List Of Pennsylvania Hurricanes
Wikipedia page would be considered a genuine hurricane. At 74-95mph,
I don't think that would be considered "nothing more than rain and
mild wind".
<https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshws.php>

Post by cyclintom
Tell me what you EVER knew about tornadoes in Ohio. It is the same sort of tornadoes we get in California.

Perhaps if you looked at some of the photos of what Ohio tornados can
do, you might think otherwise:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=Ohio+tornado+damage&udm=2>

Incidentally, we had an EF-1 tornado touch down in the middle of a
shopping center in nearby Scotts Valley CA.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=tornado+scotts+valley&udm=2>
<https://www.google.com/search?q=tornado+scotts+valley&udm=7>
It didn't last very long, injured 5 people, mangled 16 cars, wrecked
some utility poles, landed a big tree on the roof of a school, and
generally made a big mess. Of course, you're an expert on California
style tornados, where such disasters are allegedly commonplace.

[cyclintom]

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by cyclintom

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by cyclintom
Tewll us when was the last time that Pennsylvania or Ohio were hit with hurricanes or tornados?

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pennsylvania_hurricanes>
Most recent hurricane was Ida on Sept 1, 2021.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ohio_tornadoes>
Most recent tornado was Apr 2, 2024.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_California>
Most recent noteable earthquake was 6.4 in Ferndale on Dec 20, 2022.

Jeffg, I know it is bery painful for you but when a hurricane gets that far inland it is nothing more than rain and mild wind.

Nope. You asked for the last hurricane and didn't specify a minimum
force level to qualify. I assumed that since 74-95 mph (119-153 km/h)
sustained winds is the minimum wind speed to be classified a
hurricane, anything listed on the List Of Pennsylvania Hurricanes
Wikipedia page would be considered a genuine hurricane. At 74-95mph,
I don't think that would be considered "nothing more than rain and
mild wind".
<https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshws.php>

Post by cyclintom
Tell me what you EVER knew about tornadoes in Ohio. It is the same sort of tornadoes we get in California.

Perhaps if you looked at some of the photos of what Ohio tornados can
<https://www.google.com/search?q=Ohio+tornado+damage&udm=2>
Incidentally, we had an EF-1 tornado touch down in the middle of a
shopping center in nearby Scotts Valley CA.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=tornado+scotts+valley&udm=2>
<https://www.google.com/search?q=tornado+scotts+valley&udm=7>
It didn't last very long, injured 5 people, mangled 16 cars, wrecked
some utility poles, landed a big tree on the roof of a school, and
generally made a big mess. Of course, you're an expert on California
style tornados, where such disasters are allegedly commonplace.

Will you stop it? Above 35 degrees north latitude you can hardly call it a hurricane and not just heavy rain.

[Jeff Liebermann]

Post by cyclintom

Post by Jeff Liebermann
Incidentally, we had an EF-1 tornado touch down in the middle of a
shopping center in nearby Scotts Valley CA.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=tornado+scotts+valley&udm=2>
<https://www.google.com/search?q=tornado+scotts+valley&udm=7>
It didn't last very long, injured 5 people, mangled 16 cars, wrecked
some utility poles, landed a big tree on the roof of a school, and
generally made a big mess. Of course, you're an expert on California
style tornados, where such disasters are allegedly commonplace.

Will you stop it? Above 35 degrees north latitude you can hardly call it a hurricane and not just heavy rain.

Ummm... I wrote "tornado" and not "hurricane". See above.

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by cyclintom
Will you stop it? Above 35 degrees north latitude you can hardly call it a hurricane and not just heavy rain.

You need to explain that to the people around Asheville NC.

[zen cycle]

Post by Frank Krygowski

Post by cyclintom
Will you stop it? Above 35 degrees north latitude you can hardly call
it a hurricane and not just heavy rain.

You need to explain that to the people around Asheville NC.

After Hurricane Gloria hit in 1985 the neighborhood I was living in at
the time had no power for almost two weeks.

But to the point of latitude somehow being a magical delineator:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_California_hurricanes#Deadliest_storms

They only list back to 1932, but Since 1932 at least 103 deaths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_England_hurricanes#Deadliest_storms

Going from the same 1932 point, New England has seen at least 839
deaths. Removing the outlier from the unnamed hurricane of 1938, there
are 157 confirmed deaths.

The most northern point of California is Cape Mendocino at 40°44', where
as the southernmost point in New England Great Captain Island,
Connecticut at 40°59′.

IOW, the entirety of New England is north of the northern most point in
California, yet across the same time period New England had more than 8
times as many deaths from storms that were classified as hurricanes.

[AMuzi]

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Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by cyclintom

Post by Jeff Liebermann

Post by cyclintom
Tewll us when was the last time that Pennsylvania or Ohio were hit with hurricanes or tornados?

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pennsylvania_hurricanes>
Most recent hurricane was Ida on Sept 1, 2021.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ohio_tornadoes>
Most recent tornado was Apr 2, 2024.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_California>
Most recent noteable earthquake was 6.4 in Ferndale on Dec 20, 2022.

Jeffg, I know it is bery painful for you but when a hurricane gets that far inland it is nothing more than rain and mild wind.

Nope. You asked for the last hurricane and didn't specify a minimum
force level to qualify. I assumed that since 74-95 mph (119-153 km/h)
sustained winds is the minimum wind speed to be classified a
hurricane, anything listed on the List Of Pennsylvania Hurricanes
Wikipedia page would be considered a genuine hurricane. At 74-95mph,
I don't think that would be considered "nothing more than rain and
mild wind".
<https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshws.php>

Post by cyclintom
Tell me what you EVER knew about tornadoes in Ohio. It is the same sort of tornadoes we get in California.

Perhaps if you looked at some of the photos of what Ohio tornados can
<https://www.google.com/search?q=Ohio+tornado+damage&udm=2>
Incidentally, we had an EF-1 tornado touch down in the middle of a
shopping center in nearby Scotts Valley CA.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=tornado+scotts+valley&udm=2>
<https://www.google.com/search?q=tornado+scotts+valley&udm=7>
It didn't last very long, injured 5 people, mangled 16 cars, wrecked
some utility poles, landed a big tree on the roof of a school, and
generally made a big mess. Of course, you're an expert on California
style tornados, where such disasters are allegedly commonplace.

Will you stop it? Above 35 degrees north latitude you can hardly call it a hurricane and not just heavy rain.

NYC/New Jersey are 3 degrees norther than the Bay area:

https://www.britannica.com/event/Superstorm-Sandy

[Jeff Liebermann]

Post by AMuzi

Post by cyclintom
Will you stop it? Above 35 degrees north latitude you can hardly call it a hurricane and not just heavy rain.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Superstorm-Sandy

That can't be right. Tom claims that he has a graduate degree in
navigation. Maybe his degree only works over water?

12/31/2021
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/-Hmh6pTCz7U/m/XiKHzpeCDwAJ>
"I read all of the books that would have gotten me a bachelors degree
and was learning the realities of the world as well. I was rather
taken aback to discover that I had a degree in ship's navigation. And
from a prestigious school in Marin County as well."

Jan 21, 2022
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/9WEuMylDquc/m/bT-Pe6JwAgAJ>
"Or is that some sort of claim that my graduate degree from the Marine
School of Navigation is under question?"

08/28/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/UlnAtHIZnTg/m/nFzXScJWAQAJ>
"I just pulled out a ring binder and there was my degree from the
College of Marin for ship's navigation. I took that course because I
was on yacht crews racing up and down the California coast. But it was
a recognized commercial degree so that I could have been a ship's
navigator if I wasn't making a ton of money as a electronics and
software engineer actually going things unlike Flunky"

[Frank Krygowski]

Post by cyclintom
Tell me what you EVER knew about tornadoes in Ohio. It is the same sort of tornadoes we get in California.

https://www.news5cleveland.com/weather/weather-news/do-you-remember-this-taking-a-look-back-at-the-may-1985-tornado-outbreak

"The strongest of the tornadoes touched down at the Ravenna Arsenal in
eastern Portage County around 6:35 p.m. The tornado intensified to an F5
as it tracked east across southern Trumbull County, devastating the
communities of Newton Falls and Niles. Nine people were killed in the
business district of Niles. As the tornado continued east along its
forty-one-mile path of destruction, it crossed the state line and
slammed into the community of Wheatland, located in Mercer County,
Pennsylvania."

We were in a restaurant about a mile from the tornado, wondering why the
power had gone out.

For years afterward, the path of the local F-5 tornado was very visible
on our bike club rides.